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#21 Esiwdeer

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 11:16 PM

can't click on links; 4chanphobia.

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#22 Thaya

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Posted 25 July 2014 - 02:25 AM

Do you guys honestly believe Russia shot down a random civilian plane considering the situation we're in already? The way they show it in the English media is hilarious, like we actually delivered the equipment there months ago and planned to shoot down this one particular civ plane. Wasn't even us moving the equipment, lol.
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#23 Neitey

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Posted 25 July 2014 - 02:30 AM

Only idiots would believe that with the current state of evidence. The "intelligence" the American public hears shortly after disasters has a history of being awful. Not only does the US put out fake stories (such as the gulf of tonkin attack, which helped kick off American intervention in Vietnam), but US intel aren't even competent. They'd decoded a bunch of japanese coms before Pearl Harbour, and could easily have known it was coming, they also got word about it from Australia. They had no idea their #1 enemy, the USSR was on the brink of collapse the week it happened. False information about WMDs in iraq, I have all the documents.

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#24 Esiwdeer

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Posted 25 July 2014 - 02:37 AM

good thing you guys are on the case

pretty sure the last time an american who lived in america moved because of a war was 1800 something
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Posted 25 July 2014 - 03:26 AM

Do you guys honestly believe Russia shot down a random civilian plane considering the situation we're in already?


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In this region of Donetsk, Putin cannot reproduce what he did in Crimea so he let the pro-russia militia do the dirty work for him.

The pro-Russia militia is composed of ukrainians separatists armed and trained by Moscow.

You cannot deny putin responsibility in this tragedy. if Russia had not violated Ukrainian sovereignty and supported these separatists, the mh 17 crash would never have happened.

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#26 Thaya

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Posted 25 July 2014 - 04:17 AM

This conflict has been going on for nearly a century and this would happen with or without Putin.
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Posted 25 July 2014 - 11:02 AM

This conflict has been going on for nearly a century and this would happen with or without Putin.


Yeah, I feel you. I have quite a few Russian friends and they're honestly pissed at the Russia-bashing that is going on in the European media right now.

When looking at conflicts people like to single out 'the good party' and 'the bad party', I don't think it's that simple in this case. Of course, it is very easy to lay blame to Putin, but after all he really is just trying to defend Russia's interests as good as he can. He's popular, mainly because after the dawn of communism Russia was in desperate need of a leader that could keep the counry together. Looking at the horrible situation of the other post-communist states Russia did the transition decently I'd say.

This conflict has been going on for a long, long time and atrocities have been commited from both sides, all we can hope for is that the dialogue will improve and that the economical boycott will atleast help a little.
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Posted 25 July 2014 - 11:11 AM

Do you guys honestly believe Russia shot down a random civilian plane considering the situation we're in already? The way they show it in the English media is hilarious, like we actually delivered the equipment there months ago and planned to shoot down this one particular civ plane. Wasn't even us moving the equipment, lol.

Human Rights Watch:Ukrainians shot down 16 civils
http://www.hrw.org/
http://www.hrw.org/n...lling-civilians

http://youtu.be/OQH3IuPCrDw

ofc it's a propaganda against russians, dumb american will believe in anything their retarded goverment will say though

meanwhile ukrainians killing their own people

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Posted 25 July 2014 - 11:18 AM

Thaya, in your opinion is Putin a good leader?
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Posted 25 July 2014 - 12:28 PM

FUCK GUYS EVERY SINGLE THREAD DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A FULL BLOWN POLITICAL ARGUMENT
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Posted 25 July 2014 - 12:40 PM

FUCK GUYS EVERY SINGLE THREAD DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A FULL BLOWN POLITICAL ARGUMENT


There hasn't been a political argument in months.
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#32 Thaya

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Posted 25 July 2014 - 03:10 PM

Yeah, I feel you. I have quite a few Russian friends and they're honestly pissed at the Russia-bashing that is going on in the European media right now.

When looking at conflicts people like to single out 'the good party' and 'the bad party', I don't think it's that simple in this case. Of course, it is very easy to lay blame to Putin, but after all he really is just trying to defend Russia's interests as good as he can. He's popular, mainly because after the dawn of communism Russia was in desperate need of a leader that could keep the counry together. Looking at the horrible situation of the other post-communist states Russia did the transition decently I'd say.

This conflict has been going on for a long, long time and atrocities have been commited from both sides, all we can hope for is that the dialogue will improve and that the economical boycott will atleast help a little.

Yeah people seem to generally know nothing about Ukraine, Russia and USSR history so it's too simple to just say whatever the fuck in the media. Ukrainian western movements have revolted against every single government they've EVER had, lol. You could literally get killed for speaking Russian in the western parts even BEFORE this whole thing started on such a scale.

Human Rights Watch:Ukrainians shot down 16 civils
http://www.hrw.org/
http://www.hrw.org/n...lling-civilians

http://youtu.be/OQH3IuPCrDw

ofc it's a propaganda against russians, dumb american will believe in anything their retarded goverment will say though

meanwhile ukrainians killing their own people

They have been doing this for months. Killing their own people for publicity, that is. Not to mention that their government literally supported murder publicly on several occasions. Most known one is when they forced some 16-17 Russian speaking people into a house and set it on fire, while the police just stood by (per order).

The same thing is happening (and has been happening) in Gaza and Palestine for literally decades, by the way. Hamas has always been using civs as a meatshield to later blame Israel for killing civs. Israel ALWAYS warns and gives time for evac before bombing sites, but Hamas keeps people inside by force, not to mention they install equipment on the roofs of peoples houses, by force as well. I lived in Israel and I have friends who were/are in the army, so this isn't hearsay.

Thaya, in your opinion is Putin a good leader?

Yes.

Right now and during his first 4 year period, he's amazing. The parts in between (2nd 4 year period and his time as prime minister for Medvedev), I don't know. Might have been set back by Medvedev being a terrible president, and the party he's from being a complete fucking disaster. He quit it when he got elected for this 6 year period, by the way - might be part of the reason he became amazing again.

We literally don't have a better candidate as well. People can talk about rigged votes all they want, but I can assure you with a 99.9% certainty that he would win the vote anyway. Same applies to the whole Crimea referendum too btw. You can say rigged, but 99% people there speak Russian as their primary, and in most cases, only language. It's quite plausible that they wouldn't want to be part of a government that supports murder of Russian speaking people, I'd think.
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#33 Forumz

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Posted 25 July 2014 - 03:17 PM

If anything, Putin is a total badass.
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#34 Thaya

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Posted 25 July 2014 - 03:18 PM

Is the media being bullshit a general opinion where you guys live btw? I didn't expect to see this kind of support/opinion to be honest, considering what English media was pushing out lately lol
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Posted 25 July 2014 - 03:23 PM

I think the Dutch media does a decent job at staying objective, but I'm sure some details are changed to favour ''the west''.

The reporting on the Ghaza conflict is complete bullshit though, talking about the ''relatively high military losses for Israel'' when Palestinian civilians are being murdered by the hundreds.
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Posted 25 July 2014 - 03:52 PM

LOL @ Thaya pretending he can say stuff like "they've been killing their own people for publicity for months!"

which we all must just take at face value because he's an expert - requires no source, no quantification, just one picture

meanwhile if we believe a similar story from our media we are "stupid americans who will believe anything"

how euphoric

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#37 Esiwdeer

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Posted 25 July 2014 - 03:53 PM

I think the Dutch media does a decent job at staying objective, but I'm sure some details are changed to favour ''the west''.

The reporting on the Ghaza conflict is complete bullshit though, talking about the ''relatively high military losses for Israel'' when Palestinian civilians are being murdered by the hundreds.

can you quantify the dutch media's superiority?

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#38 Forumz

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Posted 25 July 2014 - 03:54 PM

I didn't even say anything about American media Idk where you got that from.
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Posted 25 July 2014 - 03:59 PM

it's a satire where noneuropeans pretend to accept the same things europeans accept

for example that one reported news story is apparently false? which we are stupid for believing?

but a similar story with just as much evidence should be believed, because that's the common sense story

sorry, it's hard as an american to apply common sense to killing people over land :)

in reality tho, it's just another shitty european war started over land - the most ancient reason of all. stop defending it, your people are barbaric and there's honestly no excuse for it.

and jesus christ dude, first russia and now israel. why don't you just move to uganda next jesus no wonder you are sad dude

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Posted 25 July 2014 - 04:02 PM

Guys, I can't decide whether it's an elaborate troll, or if he's actually this retarded. Please help.

Edited by Forumz, 25 July 2014 - 04:02 PM.

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