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#1 Neverever

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Posted 02 July 2014 - 10:31 AM

I've been playing on beta and generally wod seems to be going in a really nice direction for pvp.

However, one ability that sticks out quite a bit is freezing trap.

They've been removing all instant cast ccs and yet this is still in the game. Survival, which looks like the strongest hunter spec atm, has a perk called Enhanced Traps which reduces the cd to 12s......

The only "downside" is that it has to be aimed since theres no scatter shot and traps go off instantly, but tbh its not that hard and you basically have instant poly on a 12s cd.

What do people think about this?
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id love to be playing the same game as you where hunters and ferals are the biggest counters to mages


#2 Ravv

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Posted 02 July 2014 - 11:02 AM

I think its fine because it requires setup with your team to land a trap. So if some minimal amount of skill and communication is required to play = its all good.
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#3 HeyimJack

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Posted 02 July 2014 - 01:48 PM

I think its fine because it requires setup with your team to land a trap. So if some minimal amount of skill and communication is required to play = its all good.

JK hunters are just gonna go full sniparelite mode and trap off of air

Edited by HeyimJack, 02 July 2014 - 01:48 PM.

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#4 Nexxer

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Posted 02 July 2014 - 02:37 PM

inb4 trap bot
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#5 AndrewB

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Posted 02 July 2014 - 03:15 PM

inb4 trap bot


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Posted 02 July 2014 - 03:26 PM

inb4 laggy priest dodging every trap by running with feathers
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Posted 02 July 2014 - 03:38 PM

Can you show us a clip of hunter trapping? Been very curious as to how fast it is, and how could u ever trap a pillar hugging healer without the help of a partner.
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Posted 02 July 2014 - 05:20 PM

I want to see it in action as well. I don't want to play anything but marks, hope it's viable.
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Posted 02 July 2014 - 06:17 PM

Watch any level 60 PvP video if you want to see how Freezing Trap works without an arm time. Of course back then you also had to be out of combat to drop one, so you usually Feign Death'd first.
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Posted 02 July 2014 - 06:37 PM

Watch any level 60 PvP video if you want to see how Freezing Trap works without an arm time. Of course back then you also had to be out of combat to drop one, so you usually Feign Death'd first.

Also didn't have trap launcher. I remember the uproar that came with TBC when they decided traps should have arming time. Man I've been crying for instant traps ever since.

Anyone remember WotLK beta when they implemented freezing arrow? It used to be so that the arming time would actually start counting when the trap was launched rather than when it landed, meaning traps shot really far away would, in a way, arm instantly. Sure it required some "skill" to aim it but they decided to nerf it before release and for a reason.

Now, I don't really mind instant traps but 12 sec cd is ridiculous if that's true. No way that should make live.
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#11 watchmepwn

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Posted 02 July 2014 - 06:53 PM

wtb casting time on freezing trap
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#12 Bawn

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Posted 02 July 2014 - 07:23 PM

this is gonna be the first thing people cry about and blizzard will nerf, just watch
its not hard to trap off of roots and stuns and requires so little coordination
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Posted 02 July 2014 - 09:01 PM

ya wouldnt that be crazy if a class could spam 8 second cc really really often?

broken almost

jk wizards for entire game h3h
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Posted 02 July 2014 - 09:12 PM

It won't be hard to hit off of other partner CC, and since it's instant, you can't eat them anymore (RIP communication). The worst thing is, something is going to hit it (you or your partners) and since it's on a 12s CD, you are going to be using most of your 8s CD dispels for it. So you won't be able to dispel much else for your team. zZz.
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#15 Neverever

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Posted 02 July 2014 - 09:46 PM

The thing is, its very easy to get freezing traps off at the moment, to the point where you dont even need stuns/roots to hold a target in place while you trap. Im playing with around 200ms and its very possible to get them off 9 times out of 10 without additional set up required. I dont know if its this new better "game responsiveness" or something else but traps go off as soon as you click the area your target is on - theres no aiming slightly in front or behind etc. to compensate for where you think your target might move to - you just aim AT the target, fire and it always goes off - you dont have to factor in travel time for when the trap is in the air (its not like using a rocket launcher etc.)

And, like other people have mentioned above, theres already an honor buddy orb bot for mistweavers - wont be too hard to modify it (?) to work for this.....

That improved traps perk for survival is meant to reduce the cd of traps by 50% so with 30 sec freezing trap baseline it should go down to 15 secs but its actually 12 secs on beta for some reason.
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Posted 03 July 2014 - 01:16 AM

I have yet to see blizzard saying that they will nerf hunter CC and actually do it without making them even more retarded in the process...
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Posted 03 July 2014 - 07:00 AM

I think we only have counter shot and freezing trap now. Maybe wyvern not sure but they did tame a lot of the instant cc. I've played around on the beta briefly and the new trap mechanic is very nice and is a welcome update to the outdated mechanic considering what it had to compete against.

WIth dmg being slower pace and such even if this new trap mechanic is easier to land I think an 8 second trap won't be as big of a deal as it currently is where someone can die during trap.
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#18 Splotch

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 11:21 AM

The trap is incredbily easy to hit with now, when they say instant they mean "INSTANT" lol.
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Posted 04 July 2014 - 03:05 PM

It'll be easier to Tame Beast without having to use /stopattack macros, that's for sure!
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Posted 07 July 2014 - 12:30 AM

can we please get any video that shows how fast the traps can trigger?curious
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