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#41 Sectionx

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Posted 22 March 2014 - 03:58 PM

I don't think you're ever going to reach haste cap, so that shouldn't be an issue? ;o


With Icy Veins it's pretty easy to reach 1sec gcd even without frost armor. I have 19% haste and when I pop Icy Veins I get 50% which is the gcd haste cap. So it seems like it is an issue ;p . More haste than that is gimping your damage in Icy Veins cause you can't spam lances any faster and they scale only with intellect. The value of haste in general is obvious, but what about mastery? If you play against a combo that you can consistently stack icicles isn't mastery better after getting gcd capped in icy veins?
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#42 Dizzeeyo

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Posted 22 March 2014 - 04:57 PM

[quote name='Sectionx' timestamp='1395503905' post='4084966']
With Icy Veins it's pretty easy to reach 1sec gcd even without frost armor. I have 19% haste and when I pop Icy Veins I get 50% which is the gcd haste cap. So it seems like it is an issue ;p . More haste than that is gimping your damage in Icy Veins cause you can't spam lances any faster and they scale only with intellect. The value of haste in general is obvious, but what about mastery? If you play against a combo that you can consistently stack icicles isn't mastery better after getting gcd capped in icy veins?
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and what about the other 89% of the game when you don't have icy veins up, out of interest? =)
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No because the difference is when I play a comp i play it close to skill cap

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Posted 24 March 2014 - 02:52 PM

[quote name='Dizzeeyo' timestamp='1395507460' post='4084975']
and what about the other 89% of the game when you don't have icy veins up, out of interest? =)
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That's my question. How much haste is worth it? Is it so good that it doesn't even need to be optimized? Everyone is saying that haste is king. With season 14 gear that's certainly true cause getting gcd capped in icy veins is the most you can reach pretty much. What about season 15 gear tho?
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#44 dominera

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Posted 24 March 2014 - 08:43 PM

[quote name='Sectionx' timestamp='1395672766' post='4085998']
That's my question. How much haste is worth it? Is it so good that it doesn't even need to be optimized? Everyone is saying that haste is king. With season 14 gear that's certainly true cause getting gcd capped in icy veins is the most you can reach pretty much. What about season 15 gear tho?
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Im pretty sure haste will still be the best. But tbh dont spend so much time wondering about such things, better to just rape ppl in arena. If it shows to be some other stat priority then some smart guy will do the job for you
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#45 Ravv

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 09:09 AM

Nice guide. +rep
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Posted 06 May 2014 - 09:20 AM

Nice guide, but it didn't cover comps (or im blind and someone might quote me the part i missed)

So i'll ask here, what are some good 2's and/or 3's comps for playing a Frost Mage?
Also bonus question (since i main a monk atm), is frost mage any good with a Mistweaver and/or a Windwalker monk in 2's? (and/or 3's)

Thanks in advance for your thoughts :)
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Posted 06 May 2014 - 10:06 AM

[quote name='kraakpand' timestamp='1399368039' post='4114625']
Nice guide, but it didn't cover comps (or im blind and someone might quote me the part i missed)

So i'll ask here, what are some good 2's and/or 3's comps for playing a Frost Mage?
Also bonus question (since i main a monk atm), is frost mage any good with a Mistweaver and/or a Windwalker monk in 2's? (and/or 3's)

Thanks in advance for your thoughts :)
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2's:
Mage/Rogue, Mage/Any healer, Mage/Boomkin, everything works if you play properly.

3's:
RMD, MLX, War/Mage/Mw or Druid, Spriest/Mage/Druid or Rsham (Reffered to as Godcomp and Shatterplay) are all strong comps.

Outside of WMM MW and Mage don't really work that well together, again if played properly almost anything can be made viable with a mage.
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#48 kraakpand

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 10:37 AM

[quote name='Execx' timestamp='1399370803' post='4114637']
2's:
Mage/Rogue, Mage/Any healer, Mage/Boomkin, everything works if you play properly.

3's:
RMD, MLX, War/Mage/Mw or Druid, Spriest/Mage/Druid or Rsham (Reffered to as Godcomp and Shatterplay) are all strong comps.

Outside of WMM MW and Mage don't really work that well together, again if played properly almost anything can be made viable with a mage.
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Thank you for the lightning-fast response! It kind of is a relief to hear that MW is viable with a mage, so i don't have to reroll. I enjoy playing both WW and MW so switching between those specs is not a problem for me.

Thanks man
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#49 Nesha

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 11:08 AM

[quote name='kraakpand' timestamp='1399372631' post='4114646']
Thank you for the lightning-fast response! It kind of is a relief to hear that MW is viable with a mage, so i don't have to reroll. I enjoy playing both WW and MW so switching between those specs is not a problem for me.

Thanks man
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I have tried out ele/mage/mw and dk/mage/mw this season and they seem to synergize very well. A dk becomes a lot harder to kill with a mw on his team, as he generally moves slow (making orb-spamming that much easier!)
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Posted 09 November 2014 - 02:21 AM

nice guide
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