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[Sosseri]

[quote name='glonglon' timestamp='1393673542' post='4068932']
Could you share some basic strategies with this comp ? I'll add them to the guide.
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Sure

Well, as demo/enhance/rdruid we always go for any target except if there's a warlock in any team, But works good to if he's out of range of his portal or gateway. We like to go ham when we've got our first cc from our druid or the shaman if there's no curse dispeller in a team, most of the time we force block/bubble etc.. probably 80% of the games, this will mostly lead to a trinket from the opponent healer, And i'll have a dark soul left to finish the target with no defensive cooldowns left.

But it's not like the this always happens, there's always counters to our opener. Rmd/p for an example, what we like to do against rmd/p is i always move my pet near to my shaman so i can stun the rogue insta into fear/coil and try cc mage meanwhile.

teams with Warriors always like to charge in and try to stop the gateway, so it's always a juicy target to go for if he tries to stop it meanwhile our druid goes for a cc on the enemy healer, pop cds>axe toss>coil. Under the 4second of axe toss warrior should have trinketed before coil lands, this has lead us to many wins a lot of times.

We like to go for the resto shammys too, but we don't like to make it obvious. Instead we sit on a dps target and try to pull em to our side so the shaman has to go out ,then axe toss with solar beam leads to a trinket mostly into coil. This also works on enhance/ele shamans with axe toss and solar beam at the same time so they can't use shamanstic rage.

Against hunters we try to force a deterrence and trinket with 1 dark soul. Then go ham with cds, axe toss and coil, so does it go for mages/monk but with Hypo effect and no karma though.


I wish i could explain this in a better way, and I could go on for long, but the most important thing to understand about this comp is to decide to go for 1 target and force defensive cds til it has none left and deadek

Edited by Sosseri, 01 March 2014 - 01:06 PM.

[cvsbug]

this is the worst warlock spec

[Sosseri]

[quote name='cvsbug' timestamp='1393684269' post='4068995']
this is the worst warlock spec
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yah, not a surprise
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Edited by Sosseri, 01 March 2014 - 02:33 PM.

[substance]

For me, i played at low mmr when i played with a hunter. It was pretty much as sosseri said. Pick a target. We would almost always force cd's from target and healer. After that, it was more or less sit around, build fury then score a kill. Most of the time the hunter would be their kill target so i was often free to cast cb's. Having that knock back comes in clutch a lot of the time.Having an ms and the extra stun from pet too. I want to give demo another try this season. Like i said, I think with full gear. The spec could be better.

[Sosseri]

[quote name='substance' timestamp='1393723469' post='4069388']
For me, i played at low mmr when i played with a hunter. It was pretty much as sosseri said. Pick a target. We would almost always force cd's from target and healer. After that, it was more or less sit around, build fury then score a kill. Most of the time the hunter would be their kill target so i was often free to cast cb's. Having that knock back comes in clutch a lot of the time.Having an ms and the extra stun from pet too. I want to give demo another try this season. Like i said, I think with full gear. The spec could be better.
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yeh, it looks promising at ilvl 550, those 110k touch of chaoses on ptr

[glonglon]

@Sosseri,

Thanks for your feedback about demo/enhance/rdruid, I'll add your strategies to the guide.

Dunno if Polygonzz played demo last season maybe he'll be able to share some strategies too.

[quote name='cvsbug' timestamp='1393684269' post='4068995']
this is the worst warlock spec
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I agree with you that If you want a rank one title it'll be easier as affliction but demo is fine for glad range and It's the only warlock's spec I'm having fun with

Regards.

[quote name='substance' timestamp='1393723469' post='4069388']I want to give demo another try this season. Like i said, I think with full gear. The spec could be better.
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Will definitely be better, gl mate.

[Sosseri]

you're welcome=)

[Tsx]

nice guide +rep

[substance]

Anyone testing this out yet? I play with a friend and he has hunter, rogue and ret. We will be running beast cleave though. I wonder what other classes demo can work with. Wish there were more options.

[Eviaax]

Demo hunter ftw I'm GAWD

[Eviaax]

I also recommend running glyph of fear when playing with hunter so that hunter can trap off n use scatter of an interrupt or fill in cc

[Polygonzz]

[quote name='Eviaax' timestamp='1393811317' post='4070120']
I also recommend running glyph of fear when playing with hunter so that hunter can trap off n use scatter of an interrupt or fill in cc
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not so good fear moving people in to bad positions is what makes it so great

[Eviaax]

Not if u stun and fear Ina good spot so u can continue cc out of it. For certain comps I'd say no but for hld/hls it's worth it

[Polygonzz]

[quote name='Eviaax' timestamp='1393818726' post='4070159']
Not if u stun and fear Ina good spot so u can continue cc out of it. For certain comps I'd say no but for hld/hls it's worth it
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you can just trap off stun and not waste a glyph slot

[Eviaax]

It's not though because if you can get a fear into a trap u can use stun on kill target. I've played hld/hls every possible way as demo and from my personal experience I found that using glyph of fear ended up working out very well. That's just the way I prefer to play it. Everyone may not agree but like I said that's just my preference/ playstyle

[glonglon]

Hi Eviaax,

Imho it doesn't worth it to lose a glyph slot because being able to fear people in bad positions is just too good.

If you play with a hunter you can pick GoServ due to the fact that hunters can already apply the mortal strike debuff with their [url=http://www.wowhead.com/spell=82654] widow venom[/url].

That means you can Axe toss+trap the healer with your regular felguard and also stun the kill target during your burst with the service felguard.

However, I admit that GoServ is a 2mn CD so you'll not be able to do this for each dark soul burst.

Regards.

[Eviaax]

Right now DMG is too weak for demo. I use goservice but I use the imp. It maximizes the pressure out put to get CDs from the opposing team. All demo really has for it is burst ATM and the only way to get tht is by using service w. Imp and glyphing demon traing for the 3 round burst for imp. As far as positioning I still have howl. So if I want to fear someone in a bad position I can then fear him in place so that hunter can get a trap off on him

[Eviaax]

And If you are getting ranged and not able to get the howl off. The best thing to do is to demonic leap to target get your howl off followed by a fear then trap, scatter silence coil blah blah blah. Whatever order you prefer to cc target after trap or what is available.

[substance]

I like what your saying Ehviya. So no fel guard. The imp is doing that much better right now? I will try this out. Might end up running hlx instead of beast. We will see.

[Eviaax]

I use fel guard for nothing more then the stun as my main pet. However I run gri moire of service and use imp as the pet I use to summon. In some cases you could run imp as main pet too if your playin with a class that has plenty of stuns such as a rogue. Double imp damage with CDs/imp swarm is pretty good.