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#61 Siuox

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Posted 29 May 2014 - 03:39 PM

When I faced him he played rogue moonkin rshaman.

My thoughts: He relies much more on single target dps during stuns.
Maybe he is already saving a starsurge procc right before his rogue stuns the target and then hardcasts wrath/starfire during it, so he doesn't rely that much on random starsurge proccs and is able to get his casts / cc off quite fast. The goal of this comp is for sure not to spam aoe damage the whole game. That said more random starsurges in the wrong moments won't win their games.

[quote name='Fizion' timestamp='1401372006' post='4130345']
I was thinking the same thing. Is he running a different comp than LSD2 or is he getting more procs via more ticks?
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[quote name='Cyous' timestamp='1392796704' post='4057220']
Moonkin Spreadsheet for Starsurge proc rates (scales with targets):
www(dot)wikiupload(dot)com/D6GJRR7P41FSLNJ

* Only need to change 3 main columns: (1) "NumTargets (!)" (2) "Number of Ticks per" (3) Crit Chance
* Use the "Post-Nerf Values" section at the bottom for 5.4 information.

Using 1 targets, with 11 ticks, at 30% crit:
SS Proc Rate: ~1.0 expected procs (single DOT)

Using 3 targets, with 11 ticks, at 30% crit:
SS Proc Rate: ~1.7 expected procs (for all 3)

Using 1 targets, with 10 ticks, at 33% crit:
SS Proc Rate: ~0.9 expected procs (down: 10%)

Using 3 targets, with 10 ticks, at 33% crit:
SS Proc Rate: ~1.5 expected procs (for all 3) (down: 12%)

With love,
Cyous, your PVE Moonkin friend whom wants to PvP as Moonkin very much, but cannot stand the frustration.
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[url="http://www.arenajunkies.com/topic/246374-547-moonkin-stats/page__st__60#entry4057220"]http://www.arenajunk...60#entry4057220[/url]
(can't open the spreadshead document)

he'd need 400 more haste to get one more (13th) dottick during nature's grace. No idea why he doesn't try to reach the breakpoint^^ But then again he has 0.46% more hit than needed.
[url="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuwcTdFIcJZydHZlY09wQTQ3UUxKZVJWa04yQ1ZsTHc&hl=en#gid=1"]https://docs.google....THc&hl=en#gid=1[/url]

[quote name='Jonatan' timestamp='1401374351' post='4130366']
It's russians, who knows wtf they are doin and why
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:D

Edited by Siuox, 29 May 2014 - 03:51 PM.

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#62 kkcrayon

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Posted 02 June 2014 - 12:28 AM

When I faced him he played rogue moonkin rshaman.

My thoughts: He relies much more on single target dps during stuns.
Maybe he is already saving a starsurge procc right before his rogue stuns the target and then hardcasts wrath/starfire during it, so he doesn't rely that much on random starsurge proccs and is able to get his casts / cc off quite fast. The goal of this comp is for sure not to spam aoe damage the whole game. That said more random starsurges in the wrong moments won't win their games.




http://www.arenajunk...60#entry4057220
(can't open the spreadshead document)

he'd need 400 more haste to get one more (13th) dottick during nature's grace. No idea why he doesn't try to reach the breakpoint^^ But then again he has 0.46% more hit than needed.
https://docs.google....THc&hl=en#gid=1


:D


Yeah i don't quit understand why he doesn't just stack a little bit more haste? I also don't get why he doesn't reforge some mastery and get more crit? I do a very similar build but i feel like the 30% crit is far better than the bit of mastery you lose... but then again he is much more successful than i am so I dunno.
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