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#41 Druidking

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 07:36 PM

I asked this question in the other moonkin thread, but it seems like nobody is looking at it anymore.

I have noticed that on both US and EU, a lot of the higher rated moonkins have recently been showing faerie swarm specced on armory. I have always used Typhoon and I love it for displacement on z-axis maps, a kiting tool, and for the ability to use it as an interrupt.

I was wondering why so many people are speccing into faerie swarm now and if they are actually using it in arena, either full-time or situationally. Is there something about it that I am missing?
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Posted 11 April 2014 - 03:01 AM

I guess they use it against meele cleaves or in 2v2 if they don't play with a warlock.

you "can only" specc it if you use the treants, too, because you'll need the mass entanglement if you specc incarnation for your root/beam.
but then... there are also ppl who like cata playstyle and hardcast their root/beam and specc sth different than mass entanglement :)

(bad english)

Edited by Siuox, 11 April 2014 - 03:05 AM.

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#43 Azhag

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Posted 16 April 2014 - 09:50 PM

How boomie feels in 2s? I heard tht the easiest comp is with warlock, how we should play against dd with healer? Against two dd's, as i understand, we just should survive their cooldowns and kill'em then.
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Posted 18 April 2014 - 04:46 PM

I don't play 2s sorry

But Moonkin/Warlock might be the best comb idd
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Posted 26 April 2014 - 06:25 PM

some of the macros for me dont work :| iv tryed putting them in my slef but still no.
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Posted 27 April 2014 - 05:27 AM

which ones? :)
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Posted 27 April 2014 - 11:32 AM

hey i test boomkin , and why boomkin its so sux in 1vs1? all class can destroy you easy, and in a situation 1vs2 GL HF, imposible directly.
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Posted 28 April 2014 - 04:08 PM

Good guide. Congratulations. i am leveling up one boomkin. And it is cool :).
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Posted 07 May 2014 - 08:34 PM

What do people think about mastery over haste as a secondary stat beyond haste breakpoints? I changed my boomkin to this, but I'm not really sure the damage gain is worth it.

Is there a way to track what percentage of my spells actually had the eclipse damage bonus? An addon maybe?
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Posted 09 May 2014 - 01:46 PM

I'm reforgeing haste on every single item so there's no way to gain more haste for me without losing crit.
Got the 10289 Haste Cap.
(http://eu.battle.net...dobrev/advanced)

If you don't have full gear yet I would recommand to aim for 6637 Haste > Crit > Mastery
e.g. my low geared alt http://eu.battle.net...n/Shae/advanced
Lost ~1400 mastery and gained 1400 haste to reach the breakpoint that doesn't require nature's grace.

You can always take a look at the other moonkins, too
http://eu.battle.net.../Melby/advanced
http://eu.battle.net...hicken/advanced

http://us.battle.net...s/Wmap/advanced
http://us.battle.net...imoron/advanced

At the end it doesn't really matter what you are doing imo :D

Edited by Siuox, 09 May 2014 - 01:50 PM.

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 05:37 PM

Wmap on Tichondrius is me--I'm going for the 6.6k haste bp then full mastery. I was under the impression that hitting the 10k bp was not possible w/o dropping crit. I'm gonna give it another look tonight since mastery just seems underwhelming for boomkins.
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Posted 12 May 2014 - 04:11 PM

I am currently playing lsd2 with the 5273 haste cap, rest into crit/mastery (16114 crit, 7714 mastery)
It feels a little bit akward playing with low haste cause you feel really slow with globals/clones and stuff but when you actually get those procs you can do a ton of damage and i like it a lot actually.

Basically you have the lock pressuring the whole team and you finish them off with big starsurges.

It obviously comes down to personal preference but i personally like mastery more than the other haste cap. (10289 haste)
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Posted 16 May 2014 - 12:06 PM

I am currently playing lsd2 with the 5273 haste cap, rest into crit/mastery (16114 crit, 7714 mastery)
It feels a little bit akward playing with low haste cause you feel really slow with globals/clones and stuff but when you actually get those procs you can do a ton of damage and i like it a lot actually.

Basically you have the lock pressuring the whole team and you finish them off with big starsurges.

It obviously comes down to personal preference but i personally like mastery more than the other haste cap. (10289 haste)


I find it surprising that you would say this, because I have tried both and I think that the haste build feels better. My experience has been that with the 6637 haste build, and even with the maximum crit/mastery build with 5273 haste, my starsurges only crit for around 10k more than with the 10289 haste breakpoint. Running LSD2, my starsurges with the 10392 haste range from 100k-140k crits depending on procs being up. I'm curious what kind of numbers you are seeing with the crit/mastery build.

Edited by Druidking, 16 May 2014 - 12:07 PM.

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Posted 16 May 2014 - 03:08 PM

props to Аскич (http://eu.battle.net.../Аскич/advanced)

almost 3k running rogue moonkin rshaman :)

Edited by Siuox, 16 May 2014 - 03:09 PM.

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Posted 17 May 2014 - 03:46 AM

The best Moonkin tip this season is to run LSD2

It's pretty good
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Posted 17 May 2014 - 10:10 PM

btw do you prefer the 10k cap or the 6k cap?
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Posted 22 May 2014 - 03:14 AM

I find it surprising that you would say this, because I have tried both and I think that the haste build feels better. My experience has been that with the 6637 haste build, and even with the maximum crit/mastery build with 5273 haste, my starsurges only crit for around 10k more than with the 10289 haste breakpoint. Running LSD2, my starsurges with the 10392 haste range from 100k-140k crits depending on procs being up. I'm curious what kind of numbers you are seeing with the crit/mastery build.


A lot of people prefer the haste build, i like it aswell i'm playing with haste on my alt actually, it both works and it depends what you are playing i guess. (i play with haste when i play with a mage for example)

With the mastery build i get around 155k crits with maximum procs up but you have to keep in mind that it's not only starsurge damage that's increasing. Spells like starfall moonfire/sunfire (depending what eclipse you are in) deal more damage aswell.
I've played both and prefer mastery because it feels like it has more burst potential than playing with haste and you can get a little bit more crit because you don't have to reforge into so much haste. (i currently have 39% crit) but afterall it all comes down to personal preference, it both works really well.

props to Аскич (http://eu.battle.net.../Аскич/advanced)

almost 3k running rogue moonkin rshaman :)


Аскич is good indeed, but i'm pretty sure he's running lsd2 with Koldun, correct me if i'm wrong!

Edited by Sanaative, 25 May 2014 - 02:14 AM.

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Posted 29 May 2014 - 01:02 PM

Does anyone know why that Аскич guy is giving up ~7% crit to have 12,135 haste? it looks like he is doing it on a 2nd moonkin too. It seems like that would hurt your damage a lot, for very little benefit.
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Posted 29 May 2014 - 02:00 PM

Does anyone know why that Аскич guy is giving up ~7% crit to have 12,135 haste? it looks like he is doing it on a 2nd moonkin too. It seems like that would hurt your damage a lot, for very little benefit.

I was thinking the same thing. Is he running a different comp than LSD2 or is he getting more procs via more ticks?
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Posted 29 May 2014 - 02:39 PM

Does anyone know why that Аскич guy is giving up ~7% crit to have 12,135 haste? it looks like he is doing it on a 2nd moonkin too. It seems like that would hurt your damage a lot, for very little benefit.


It's russians, who knows wtf they are doin and why
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