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#1 Siuox

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Posted 05 February 2014 - 04:02 AM

Will you aim for the 10289er Hastecap > Crit > Mastery too or sth different?

http://www.arenajunk...40#entry4051841 overall view of gearsetups

http://www.arenajunk...20#entry4049972 crit/int/pvp power gems

http://www.arenajunk...60#entry4057220 dot spreadsheet

Edited by Siuox, 27 February 2014 - 06:14 PM.


#2 stevieshankalot

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Posted 05 February 2014 - 04:04 AM

does anyone know if bomkin is going to be T1 viable next season and if so with what comp?

Thanks for the post OP #boomkinhype!!!!!!
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Posted 05 February 2014 - 04:14 AM

haven't played arena yet on the ptr but the 10k cap + ~ 32 % Crit felt comfortable

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Posted 05 February 2014 - 04:14 AM

Most likely not T1 viable. Stats wise, I'll see about that 10k haste cap, I'm afraid it will not be worth, losing all that crit (hate it or not, we're very very crit (rng) dependable).

I will test a bit on PTR in S15 gear and try to report :)

Is 32% all you managed to get from S15 gear? I have 32% crit atm. on my horde troll boomkin (BS + LW proffs) and It doesn't feel enough at all :P

Edited by Kuzlica, 05 February 2014 - 04:15 AM.


#5 Siuox

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Posted 05 February 2014 - 04:28 AM

Actually I had 34,6 % crit (without HOTW).
10289 Haste and 25.23% mastery
= 2 sec starfire (1.8 with NG up), 1.5 sec wrath (1.3 wrath), 1,9 sec Healing Touch

vs

35.64% Crit, 5273 Haste, 38.12% mastery (equals ~ 12% more damage during eclipse)

Edited by Siuox, 05 February 2014 - 04:33 AM.


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Posted 05 February 2014 - 04:33 AM

with the 5 min debuff would it not mean that DoT cleaves will make a comeback?
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Posted 05 February 2014 - 04:36 AM

5 min debuff only in 2s. still 10 min in 3s

http://blue.mmo-cham...tes-february-3/

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Posted 05 February 2014 - 04:44 AM

View PostSiuox, on 05 February 2014 - 04:36 AM, said:

5 min debuff only in 2s. still 10 min in 3s

http://blue.mmo-cham...tes-february-3/

Well... That's aids...
brb everyone

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Posted 05 February 2014 - 08:19 AM

View PostSiuox, on 05 February 2014 - 04:36 AM, said:

5 min debuff only in 2s. still 10 min in 3s

http://blue.mmo-cham...tes-february-3/
rip boomkins

#10 Kuzlica

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Posted 05 February 2014 - 12:45 PM

Stats look nice, but I doubt we will any more viable then we were this seasson :((

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Posted 05 February 2014 - 12:48 PM

View PostKuzlica, on 05 February 2014 - 12:45 PM, said:

Stats look nice, but I doubt we will any more viable then we were this seasson :((
considering you were 2k rating when I played you two weeks ago, you don't seem to have done too badly to shoot up to 2.4 just in time for season end xD

View PostPouncedd, on 12 June 2014 - 01:51 AM, said:

Feel free to call me an idiot because I'm a hunter or some stupid ass remark but I've actually written all this down on paper and have looked at the numbers comparatively for almost every class

View PostJontex, on 23 June 2014 - 04:48 PM, said:

I actually made an appearance at DH2014 and I met up with people from twitch who were involved with the dota 2 / cs tournies that where there, I talked about the game from my perspective as a professional player and we actually shared a lot of opinions. All I'm saying is a lot of people will be VERY surprised about the future of this game in the esport world :)

#12 Siuox

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Posted 05 February 2014 - 01:10 PM

(he has played at least the last game as resto otherwise he would be listed as moonkin in the 3v3 ladder:P)

#13 Kuzlica

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Posted 05 February 2014 - 01:57 PM

I'm playing on on 2.3k+ mmr for last few weeks on my main, so you must have faced me on some of the alts (playing for cap), eitherway.

I've sadly got to like 2250 max as boomkin and I've played ww monk, boom, rshammy at that point... Just sort of impossible to get partners as no one wants to play with boomkin.

Therefore I'm forced to play resto on all 3 of my druids, gotta play fotm comps right?!?! **cough** DK/ELE/Rdruid

Edited by Kuzlica, 05 February 2014 - 02:17 PM.


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Posted 05 February 2014 - 02:07 PM

View PostKuzlica, on 05 February 2014 - 01:57 PM, said:

I'm playing on 2.3k+ mmr last 1-2 months on my main, so you must have faced me on some of the alts.

I've sadly got to like 2250 max as boomkin and I've played ww monk, boom, rshammy at that point... Just sort of impossible to get partners as no one wants to play with boomkin.

Therefore I'm forced to play resto on all 3 of my druids, gotta play fotm comps right?!?!

I wanna play dk/ele/rdruid.... why does no one wanna play that with me :'(

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Posted 05 February 2014 - 02:34 PM

This season it's definitely not worth going for the haste cap cause you lose too much crit/mastery. But yea we've gotta test it out with new gear i guess, could be worth it. (I'll check the PTR sometime)

Edited by Sanaative, 05 February 2014 - 02:35 PM.


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Posted 05 February 2014 - 05:30 PM

Personally I prefer mastery over haste. I dont feel like that extra dot tick is worth it, and I dont think haste is worth using for faster casts, because there are too many ways to stop a cast in this expansion, so I prefer the extra damage during eclipse and burst CDs.

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 08:52 AM

View PostSiuox, on 05 February 2014 - 04:02 AM, said:

Will you aim for the 10289er Hastecap > Crit > Mastery too or sth different?
Breakpoints are counted with NG up and are overrated in pvp.
Altho i still use a haste build, but not for the +1 dot tick WHEN i have ng up..but for the faster casts.
Still not sure if its good at all, as its still about dot-surge and +2 tick on your dots is less effective than some crit in terms of actually getting a proc AND hitting hard with it, because even if you get 7 proc if none of them crits thats like 0.

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 11:54 AM

View Postfearco, on 06 February 2014 - 08:52 AM, said:

Breakpoints are counted with NG up and are overrated in pvp.

I never specced the treants so I relied on my burst damage during all my cooldowns. and during them, you hav NG up.
But I was wondering, too if it isn't worth to add ~1000 extra haste (6637) to always have the extra tick (cptuhu did so).
Haste is pretty nice if you have to CC ppl / offheal your mates.

You only lose ~2% crit and ~11% damage during eclipse. But you dots are doing zero damage anyway.
Lunar --- nothing --- Solar. Idk but imo it doesnt matter if wrath / your dots hit for 11% harder. Only noticable during the lunar eclipse when you got SS proccs or hardacasting starfire, cause these will be your big numbers.

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Posted 07 February 2014 - 12:39 PM

View PostSiuox, on 06 February 2014 - 11:54 AM, said:

I never specced the treants so I relied on my burst damage during all my cooldowns. and during them, you hav NG up.
But I was wondering, too if it isn't worth to add ~1000 extra haste (6637) to always have the extra tick (cptuhu did so).
Haste is pretty nice if you have to CC ppl / offheal your mates.

You only lose ~2% crit and ~11% damage during eclipse. But you dots are doing zero damage anyway.
Lunar --- nothing --- Solar. Idk but imo it doesnt matter if wrath / your dots hit for 11% harder. Only noticable during the lunar eclipse when you got SS proccs or hardacasting starfire, cause these will be your big numbers.
Ye mastery is bullshit, im having like 23% as well.
I'm int>crit=haste>mastery, so i mostly agree with you.
All i tried to say is that haste for breakpoints is overrated in pvp in....my opinion at least.

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Posted 07 February 2014 - 03:45 PM

Won't PvP power be better next season over int? Atleast for Resto PvP Power is very close in terms of 1 int vs. 1 pvp power, and with the added ilvls and the int that comes from that (28 iLvls is nothing to shrug at), pvp power could come out on top over int since it's a percentage damage increase vs. int that is a flat damage increase, no?

Anyone tested on PTR?




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