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[Yubel]

So, as you know, charge change gets reverted:

http://us.battle.net...88083?page=5#83

and instead, pummel and disrupting shout share a 15 second CD.


but that's not what this thread is about. this thread is about what follows after blizzard announces such a change. Here is the next post that follows after that blue post:

Hamarr - Drenden
So warriors can't double-interrupt in PvP. That's fine and all, except that also extends to PvE. Do you know how many times I've managed to save someone in my group because I had a second interrupt at the ready, when no one else had theirs ready or could even use theirs?

Another PvE nerf because of PvP. Awesome. Can you guys just split all abilities up into PvP and PvE versions so this sort of thing stops happening?



Let's have a look at another post that follows the change:

Nynæve - Garona
I'm going to preface this by saying that I love PvP, I've PvPed in this game since classic. I just can't stand it when these massive, painful changes happen to PVE because of PvP...

Of course this was because of PvP. I'm not the least bit surprised.
I just wish we could fix PvP in a way that doesn't gimp people and playstyles in PVE. I understand that you're worried about tooltips being too confusing or incomprehensibly long; however, I feel most people would thank you in the end if the changes you made DUE to PvP only AFFECT PvP.
There's too much CC in PvP. It feels impossible to do anything in PvP anymore. This needs to change, but please don't let it affect iconic tanking styles in PVE.




ALL HAIL PVE OVERLORDS

[Braindance]

And he is right because it's really important to have an aoe interrupt in pvp. There's a conflict of interest.

[Marshmellow]

PvE game

[Icyfresh420]

Yubel, on 04 February 2014 - 04:29 AM, said:

Let's have a look at another post that follows the change:

Nynæve - Garona
I just can't stand it when these massive, painful changes happen to PVE because of PvP...

Massive...painful changes... happen to PVE because of...PVP? Oh.... you mean like...
www.arenajunkies.com/news/784-january-6-hotfixes/
THIS?
What the actual fuck did I just read
Blizzard gives retardproof insane damage classes even more damage because of PVE thus fucking over pvp and not a single person bats an eye
But lose 1 of the 25 interupts in your raid group and everybody loses their minds

[AndrewB]

Don't be so dramatic. There's a multitude of reasons why this game could be considered shit.

[dominera]

Guys seriously do you even know how many times he has saved the raid group cause of the second interrupt? Its mindblowing when you think about it, I dont think we can fully understand the complex situation of PvE interrupts. The mindgame between the raid boss and tank must be exhausting with all the jukes

[Yuiiuo]

finally they are goona do what the community asked on the FIRST day of 5.4

good job blizzard.................................

[Persephones]

Icyfresh420, on 04 February 2014 - 05:02 AM, said:

But lose 1 of the 25 interupts in your raid group and everybody loses their minds

Was hard to read this without thinking http://tinyurl.com/prqmgj5

[faction]

both of those people are completely right blame blizzard for still not having separate pvp and pve skillsets after like 15 years of the game being out

[Seraphuslol]

Idk man. The harder blizz has worked towards seperating pve and pvp, the shittier and shittier this game has gotten over the years.

[Doomed the Dog]

Yubel, on 04 February 2014 - 04:29 AM, said:

ALL HAIL PVE OVERLORDS

Hi

[Okayenhance]

Seraphuslol, on 04 February 2014 - 11:54 AM, said:

Idk man. The harder blizz has worked towards seperating pve and pvp, the shittier and shittier this game has gotten over the years.

Or maybe it's because there are these things called expansions and inside those expansions have been new classes (yours) new abilities (hurr durr ascendance) and harder raid mechanics and pandering to 'bring the player not the class' that has watered down WoW into a 'who can pull the highest number' in PvE and 'who has the most CC and unpeelable unstoppable damage' in PvP.

[faction]

everquest 2 had seperate pvp and pve ability mechanics in like 1991

[Siuox]

all those crybabies should play moonkin in raid, 1 counter every minute :OO : O

but I really feel sorry for the pve guys now they need a kick rotation :OO O

[talaax]

thats it im gona fight you if u dont stop posting

Edited by talaax, 04 February 2014 - 01:43 PM.

[Moshe]

I am amazed that there are still ppl in AJ who still don't know the reason PvP sucks in this game is becouse they prioritize PvE over PvP and balance everything around that. For example damage.

[Darksoldierr]

Other than that their IQ is below 20, it doesn't change the fact that this is a PvE game and the first poster is right about splitting PvE and PvP already.

Which won't happen. I was fairly sure this was obvious since forever.

Edited by Darksoldierr, 04 February 2014 - 03:04 PM.

[BalanceRexxar]

Icyfresh420, on 04 February 2014 - 05:02 AM, said:

Blizzard gives retardproof insane damage classes even more damage because of PVE thus fucking over pvp and not a single person bats an eye

pretty sure if there is a minor change that people dont like i see 5 bitch threads on AJ

[mirox]

I think that guy saying that "they hate when pvp change impacts pve" has the point, I mean, we all dislike when pve change makes a class OP in pvp, why wouldn't it be the otherway around as well? I had hopes that they are finally going to separate pve and pvp in WOD, but as it seems, they won't. And it makes me really sad :/ The excuse of 'tooltips would be too confusing' is kinda getting old imo!

[helpx]

we need a second kick incase 5 of our raid members overlap kick :;=)))))