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#21 kubu

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 11:46 AM

View PostDarksoldierr, on 11 December 2013 - 10:28 AM, said:

S8 was one of the worst, also made me quit back then. Ele Warlock in every fucking comp, much balance, such fun, great joy, oh right, Warriors with Legendary and Heroic trinket, such bladestorm

and omg enhancement shamans were effed up with beast cleaves and don't even get me started on mages and rogues and those godamn double healer dk comps and RLS. Just like...do you see how every class was op thus none were?

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 01:52 PM

View Postkubu, on 11 December 2013 - 11:46 AM, said:

and omg enhancement shamans were effed up with beast cleaves and don't even get me started on mages and rogues and those godamn double healer dk comps and RLS. Just like...do you see how every class was op thus none were?

<3. I miss S8 so much because of this.



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Posted 11 December 2013 - 02:08 PM

View Postkubu, on 11 December 2013 - 11:46 AM, said:

and omg enhancement shamans were effed up with beast cleaves and don't even get me started on mages and rogues and those godamn double healer dk comps and RLS. Just like...do you see how every class was op thus none were?

Never played beastcleave myself in wotlk, but i think S6 was THE beastcleave season with the Earthbind buff. After it was nerfed it was far less op by S7 and especially in S8. But correct me if i'm wrong and we didn't see caster cleave on caster cleave action 24/7 in the last Wotlk tournament
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Posted 11 December 2013 - 02:20 PM

Too much homogenization is also a part of the problem. It's too easy to take the better healer simply because he can fill the same role as all the others.

Holy Paladins are quite ok. They surely are one of the best ones in 5v5 due to their defensive capabilities, but in 3v3 the setups they are good in not very dominant.

It's sadly what the game has become.

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 03:01 PM

Pallys are really strong atm imo, there are just no good ones queing actively + theres no reason to take a paladin or any other healer over a druid atm, pallys are imo second strongest healer after druids
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#26 kubu

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 03:09 PM

View PostChickz, on 11 December 2013 - 03:01 PM, said:

Pallys are really strong atm imo, there are just no good ones queing actively + theres no reason to take a paladin or any other healer over a druid atm, pallys are imo second strongest healer after druids

I would love for you to send over some of whatever you're smoking :P

#27 kubu

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 03:24 PM

View PostDarksoldierr, on 11 December 2013 - 02:08 PM, said:

Never played beastcleave myself in wotlk, but i think S6 was THE beastcleave season with the Earthbind buff. After it was nerfed it was far less op by S7 and especially in S8. But correct me if i'm wrong and we didn't see caster cleave on caster cleave action 24/7 in the last Wotlk tournament

No they were pretty strong in s8

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 04:15 PM

View Postkubu, on 11 December 2013 - 03:20 AM, said:

5.4.2 is upon us and holy paladins are still absolute crap. Teams are still better off with practically any other healer. We are still the easiest class to CC and global. Our heals are useless unless we have our limited cool downs running and even then we usually just get cc'd. I guess we are never getting a balanced season 8 ever again. /pray for heroes of storm beta key

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#29 Feliclandelo

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 04:18 PM

Yup, I ended up being rank 9 or 10 as Beastcleave on the ATR in season8 without having our Hunter using a microphone and playing with ArP gems. If fucker didn't go awol last 2 days we would have qualified!

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 04:24 PM

No matter how shit ur spec/ class is, u should be able to hit 2.2, maybe player issue and not class?

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 04:30 PM

View PostFeliclandelo, on 11 December 2013 - 02:20 PM, said:

Too much homogenization is also a part of the problem. It's too easy to take the better healer simply because he can fill the same role as all the others.

Holy Paladins are quite ok. They surely are one of the best ones in 5v5 due to their defensive capabilities, but in 3v3 the setups they are good in not very dominant.

It's sadly what the game has become.

I think this is one of the main reasons people say S8 was great. There was a clear difference between classes and each healer had a certian role to fill. When everyone got the same dispel in Cataclysm all hell broke loose.

Edited by Urbandurban, 11 December 2013 - 04:31 PM.

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#32 Feliclandelo

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 04:47 PM

View PostArtofmage, on 11 December 2013 - 04:24 PM, said:

No matter how shit ur spec/ class is, u should be able to hit 2.2, maybe player issue and not class?

Yes you're right, but that would be because of your partners class' ;-)

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 05:28 PM

View Postkubu, on 11 December 2013 - 11:44 AM, said:

Flawed statistics. You have to break it down into spec. A guardian druid can hardly be glad viable. Some classes had 3 viable specs others had 1 or 2. Of course complete balance is impossible but season 8 is the closest it has ever gotten. Please name 1 class in season 8 which would have serious problems as a whole in getting gladiator.

Just to be clear. You're saying that Holy paladins are fine, priests are fine, this game is fine and that there is a season that was more balanced than season 8?

Did I say the game is fine? Did I say any season was specifically better then season 8? Every season has problems, season 8 was no different. There are classes that are too good, classes that are too bad, and classes in the middle, that's how every season has been. Regardless of what people speced in season 8, CLEARLY some classes have significantly better/worse representation then others. It wasn't balanced, it was actually awful for certain classes, and double healer dk still leaves a a bad taste in my mouth.

Paladins are fine-ish. Nerf mages and holy paladins would probably be completely fine.

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 07:02 PM

View PostFeliclandelo, on 11 December 2013 - 04:47 PM, said:

Yes you're right, but that would be because of your partners class' ;-)
not rly :P, 2.2 is nothing if ur decent in the game in general, which isn't that hard:)

#35 kubu

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Posted 15 December 2013 - 01:10 AM

Fact still stands paladins need buffs!

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Posted 15 December 2013 - 01:28 AM

View Postkubu, on 15 December 2013 - 01:10 AM, said:

Fact still stands paladins need buffs!
fact still stands I doubt you are getting any

View PostPouncedd, on 12 June 2014 - 01:51 AM, said:

Feel free to call me an idiot because I'm a hunter or some stupid ass remark but I've actually written all this down on paper and have looked at the numbers comparatively for almost every class

View PostJontex, on 23 June 2014 - 04:48 PM, said:

I actually made an appearance at DH2014 and I met up with people from twitch who were involved with the dota 2 / cs tournies that where there, I talked about the game from my perspective as a professional player and we actually shared a lot of opinions. All I'm saying is a lot of people will be VERY surprised about the future of this game in the esport world :)

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Posted 15 December 2013 - 02:48 AM

s8 was just ok, s5, s6 was a holy pallys wet dream, lol   Hpallys are definetly not the best or even second best healer for 3v3 atm, its not the worst its ever been either. IMO s9, s10, s11, were all harder seasons for hpallys, mainly cuz resto shamans were so great, and priests just always will and forever counter hpallys.  I wasn't around for s12, s13,   Im still having fun playing a pally tho.  PEACE!!!!

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Posted 15 December 2013 - 03:01 AM

Paladins are fine. You just need to get Jahmilli to carry your class like Gs last season or Elite this season.

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Posted 15 December 2013 - 04:38 AM

View PostDizzeeyo, on 15 December 2013 - 01:28 AM, said:

fact still stands I doubt you are getting any

ya :(

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Posted 15 December 2013 - 06:45 AM

View Postkubu, on 11 December 2013 - 03:20 AM, said:

5.4.2 is upon us and holy paladins are still absolute crap. Teams are still better off with practically any other healer. We are still the easiest class to CC and global. Our heals are useless unless we have our limited cool downs running and even then we usually just get cc'd. I guess we are never getting a balanced season 8 ever again. /pray for heroes of storm beta key

that's why the 1 and 2 spot on the 3v3 ladder is a pally right




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