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#241 Crawthz

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Posted 24 December 2013 - 08:35 AM

View PostUrbandurban, on 24 December 2013 - 08:06 AM, said:

The only reason it hasnt given gladiator is because the activity has been so low. Now with the activity gone up in 5s AND it being regionwide arenas, 5's giving gladiator is totally justifiable.

5s shouldn't give titles to begin with, it's a joke of a bracket. Also, if even Holinka says "You should see the same amount +25% Gladiator's", then 0 glad's +25% is still 0 glads from 5s. r1 for top5 I can somehow understand.
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Posted 24 December 2013 - 09:23 AM

View PostSlavens, on 23 December 2013 - 11:00 PM, said:

you can just look here

http://us.battle.net...rd/rankings/3v3

1500 rating is around 70,000

70,000 x .005 = 350 spots

currently 460 spots in EU which means 2326 +/- rating atm.

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Posted 24 December 2013 - 09:24 AM

View PostCrawthz, on 24 December 2013 - 08:35 AM, said:

5s shouldn't give titles to begin with, it's a joke of a bracket. Also, if even Holinka says "You should see the same amount +25% Gladiator's", then 0 glad's +25% is still 0 glads from 5s. r1 for top5 I can somehow understand.

This, last season there were some ppl that got Tyranical gladitor in 5s -> but never passed the 2.2 border in 3s the whole season (I know them). Fuckin ridicilous.

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Posted 24 December 2013 - 10:49 AM

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Posted 24 December 2013 - 12:06 PM

View PostZerud, on 24 December 2013 - 08:25 AM, said:

No, 5's should not even give titles to start with.
Not even taking in account that the entire top 20 is russian wintraders

In seasons like this where the only thing you meet is KFC and R/WMD I do think 5's giving titles is fine. This season is a fucking joke and without 5's there wouldn't really be alot of diversity in the title department.

View PostCrawthz, on 24 December 2013 - 08:35 AM, said:

5s shouldn't give titles to begin with, it's a joke of a bracket. Also, if even Holinka says "You should see the same amount +25% Gladiator's", then 0 glad's +25% is still 0 glads from 5s. r1 for top5 I can somehow understand.

I agree that 5's is a joke. But seriously, 3's is fucking destroyed this season. I've never seen such a low amount of diversity in 3's in any other season. S12 had alot of RLS but this is just something else.

If the cutoff IS 1500, there will even be 1/3 of the R1 spots that there were in 5's season 12.

Personally I think it's fun and refreshing to see other people at the top other than the usual suspects (disregarding the russians).

Edited by Urbandurban, 24 December 2013 - 12:11 PM.

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Posted 24 December 2013 - 01:23 PM

View PostUrbandurban, on 24 December 2013 - 12:06 PM, said:

Personally I think it's fun and refreshing to see other people at the top other than the usual suspects (disregarding the russians).
you see other people at the top in 5s? XD

View PostPouncedd, on 12 June 2014 - 01:51 AM, said:

Feel free to call me an idiot because I'm a hunter or some stupid ass remark but I've actually written all this down on paper and have looked at the numbers comparatively for almost every class

View PostJontex, on 23 June 2014 - 04:48 PM, said:

I actually made an appearance at DH2014 and I met up with people from twitch who were involved with the dota 2 / cs tournies that where there, I talked about the game from my perspective as a professional player and we actually shared a lot of opinions. All I'm saying is a lot of people will be VERY surprised about the future of this game in the esport world :)

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Posted 24 December 2013 - 01:28 PM

View PostUrbandurban, on 24 December 2013 - 12:06 PM, said:

In seasons like this where the only thing you meet is KFC and R/WMD I do think 5's giving titles is fine. This season is a fucking joke and without 5's there wouldn't really be alot of diversity in the title department.

I agree that 5's is a joke. But seriously, 3's is fucking destroyed this season. I've never seen such a low amount of diversity in 3's in any other season. S12 had alot of RLS but this is just something else.
There is a ton besides XMD and KFC...MLS, Thundercleave, MLD, LSD, Godcomp, Turbocleave, Kittycleave.

And S12 was all KFC and godcomp btw, unless you mean S11 which was RLS and RMP.
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Posted 24 December 2013 - 03:03 PM

View PostDizzeeyo, on 24 December 2013 - 01:23 PM, said:

you see other people at the top in 5s? XD
Yes, atleast more than I do in 3s.

View PostGlink, on 24 December 2013 - 01:28 PM, said:

There is a ton besides XMD and KFC...MLS, Thundercleave, MLD, LSD, Godcomp, Turbocleave, Kittycleave.

And S12 was all KFC and godcomp btw, unless you mean S11 which was RLS and RMP.

The comps exist, as they did in S11 and 12. But the MAJORITY of comps that are played are variants of KFC and R/WMD, there really is no denying that.

Edited by Urbandurban, 24 December 2013 - 03:04 PM.

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Posted 24 December 2013 - 03:27 PM

View PostUrbandurban, on 24 December 2013 - 03:03 PM, said:


Yes, atleast more than I do in 3s.



The comps exist, as they did in S11 and 12. But the MAJORITY of comps that are played are variants of KFC and R/WMD, there really is no denying that.

Godcomp, Shatterplay, WMD, WMS, Kitty,  PHP, Ele/Mage/x, Jungle, WPS, FPS, KFC and more was s12. Everything r1 viable.

Now KFC, RMx, WMx with every healer variant, LSD/P, Kitty, Jungle, FLS, MLx, WLx, WWLx, beastcleave, FMP and so on. One clasd that is inconsistant in all MoP seasons is DK. And still DK has had/has strong comps llie Shadowcleave and PHD.

Don't be so narrowminded, there is massive amount of comps what work to r1 level, some easier and some tad harder.
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Posted 24 December 2013 - 03:43 PM

View PostCrawthz, on 24 December 2013 - 03:27 PM, said:

Godcomp, Shatterplay, WMD, WMS, Kitty,  PHP, Ele/Mage/x, Jungle, WPS, FPS, KFC and more was s12. Everything r1 viable.

Now KFC, RMx, WMx with every healer variant, LSD/P, Kitty, Jungle, FLS, MLx, WLx, WWLx, beastcleave, FMP and so on. One clasd that is inconsistant in all MoP seasons is DK. And still DK has had/has strong comps llie Shadowcleave and PHD.

Don't be so narrowminded, there is massive amount of comps what work to r1 level, some easier and some tad harder.

Like I said, they exist. But what do people play? Almost exclusively KFC variants and variants of R/WMX. I never said those comps dont exist, I'm just telling you what the majority of people play and what you meet and thus it feels like a really boring season.

Too be perfectly clear: I'm not saying any other season in MoP was any better. I really dont like MoP as an expansion and I wish for it to end asap.

Edited by Urbandurban, 24 December 2013 - 03:47 PM.

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Posted 25 December 2013 - 11:50 AM

View PostCrawthz, on 24 December 2013 - 08:35 AM, said:

5s shouldn't give titles to begin with, it's a joke of a bracket

almost as much as rbg

Edited by Kruschpak, 25 December 2013 - 11:51 AM.


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Posted 25 December 2013 - 12:04 PM

View PostUrbandurban, on 24 December 2013 - 03:43 PM, said:



Like I said, they exist. But what do people play? Almost exclusively KFC variants and variants of R/WMX. I never said those comps dont exist, I'm just telling you what the majority of people play and what you meet and thus it feels like a really boring season.

Too be perfectly clear: I'm not saying any other season in MoP was any better. I really dont like MoP as an expansion and I wish for it to end asap.

Every single season since s1 had two or three fotm comps that you "only queue against", but in reality most other comps were much stronger. Like s13 had PHP and Jungle and LSD, but FMP was played by 2-3 teams totsl in EU/US and was much stronger than these fotms.
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Posted 25 December 2013 - 12:31 PM

View PostGlink, on 24 December 2013 - 01:28 PM, said:

There is a ton besides XMD and KFC...MLS, Thundercleave, MLD, LSD, Godcomp, Turbocleave, Kittycleave.

And S12 was all KFC and godcomp btw, unless you mean S11 which was RLS and RMP.
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Posted 25 December 2013 - 02:00 PM

slightly offtopic but

[13:58:35] [2] [Archiepriest]: 2.8k 2x Gladiator/high warlord Account 4 x 90with ashes of alar and more for sale /w me for more info ( seirous only ) we will have a chat on skype about it all if your interested

whisper him if anyone is interested!

xD

View PostPouncedd, on 12 June 2014 - 01:51 AM, said:

Feel free to call me an idiot because I'm a hunter or some stupid ass remark but I've actually written all this down on paper and have looked at the numbers comparatively for almost every class

View PostJontex, on 23 June 2014 - 04:48 PM, said:

I actually made an appearance at DH2014 and I met up with people from twitch who were involved with the dota 2 / cs tournies that where there, I talked about the game from my perspective as a professional player and we actually shared a lot of opinions. All I'm saying is a lot of people will be VERY surprised about the future of this game in the esport world :)

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Posted 25 December 2013 - 02:06 PM

View PostDizzeeyo, on 25 December 2013 - 02:00 PM, said:

slightly offtopic but

[13:58:35] [2] [Archiepriest]: 2.8k 2x Gladiator/high warlord Account 4 x 90with ashes of alar and more for sale /w me for more info ( seirous only ) we will have a chat on skype about it all if your interested

whisper him if anyone is interested!

xD

LOL, did 2.4k duelist suddenly become 2.8k multiglad?? :D
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Posted 25 December 2013 - 06:41 PM

View PostDizzeeyo, on 25 December 2013 - 02:00 PM, said:

slightly offtopic but

[13:58:35] [2] [Archiepriest]: 2.8k 2x Gladiator/high warlord Account 4 x 90with ashes of alar and more for sale /w me for more info ( seirous only ) we will have a chat on skype about it all if your interested

whisper him if anyone is interested!

xD

Um obviously that is not me since my name isnt Archiepriest and I don't have the ashes of alar mount. Good to see that you are keeping up the hate. Hope you had a nice Xmas...

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Posted 25 December 2013 - 06:57 PM

View PostArchpriest, on 25 December 2013 - 06:41 PM, said:

Um obviously that is not me since my name isnt Archiepriest and I don't have the ashes of alar mount. Good to see that you are keeping up the hate. Hope you had a nice Xmas...
did I say it was you? :D

View PostPouncedd, on 12 June 2014 - 01:51 AM, said:

Feel free to call me an idiot because I'm a hunter or some stupid ass remark but I've actually written all this down on paper and have looked at the numbers comparatively for almost every class

View PostJontex, on 23 June 2014 - 04:48 PM, said:

I actually made an appearance at DH2014 and I met up with people from twitch who were involved with the dota 2 / cs tournies that where there, I talked about the game from my perspective as a professional player and we actually shared a lot of opinions. All I'm saying is a lot of people will be VERY surprised about the future of this game in the esport world :)

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Posted 25 December 2013 - 07:12 PM

#Keep the hate going

Edited by Reetry, 25 December 2013 - 07:12 PM.

View Postbrosearch, on 27 November 2013 - 07:50 PM, said:

PvP is never going to be good ever again. Its like the michael jordan era of basketball. Those who witnessed it, were very very fortunate, but now it is gone and there is no bringing it back. Get over it.

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Posted 30 December 2013 - 01:26 AM

View PostCrawthz, on 24 December 2013 - 08:35 AM, said:

5s shouldn't give titles to begin with, it's a joke of a bracket. Also, if even Holinka says "You should see the same amount +25% Gladiator's", then 0 glad's +25% is still 0 glads from 5s. r1 for top5 I can somehow understand.

They offer rewards for brackets as an incentive to que,they don't have any 2's titles as it would hurt 3s/5s.

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Posted 30 December 2013 - 03:57 AM

View PostShiningday, on 01 December 2013 - 03:20 PM, said:

It does not matter what rating u need to get a gladiator, it's just a number, it does not have any meaning.
Btw in s4 2150+- was glad in some bgs.

Exactly.  These kids are so worried about rating, but all that matters is glad still means "better than 99.5% of the people out there" as much as it ever has.  At least now people don't have the option to move to a backwater bg to push rating/titles.
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