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#1 Crawthz

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 11:18 AM

Finally Blizzard published data to determine the cutouts for this season. The data is "right now" (Updated 15.1.2014) as in if season ended this second. The ladder is massive and it's live all the time, so it changes, but it never goes below these numbers (unless players delete their characters in massive scale)

As we all know, Grievous Gladiator is top 0.1% and Gladiator is top 0.5% of the ladder.

Gladiator
EU 3v3 - #1132 - ~2261 rating
US 3v3 - #960 - ~2220 rating

Grievous Gladiator
EU 3v3 - #226 - ~2500 rating
US 3v3 - #192 - ~2414 rating
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View PostElorxo, on 27 November 2013 - 11:23 AM, said:

no way? feels way too low

maybe i can send braindance a screenshot of my first glad title and my oxford acceptance letter and then i can be cool again

Do the math yourself, get lowest rank and divide it with 200 and you get last Gladiator rank per ladder. Divide that number again with 5 and you get last r1 rank.

For example EU 3v3 right now:
262042 / 200 = 1310,21 - which is 1310 spots for Gladiator
1310,21 / 5 = 262,042 - which is 262 spots for Grievous Gladiator
or
262042 / 1000 = 262,042 - which is 262 spots for Grievous Gladiator

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View PostSnuggli, on 27 November 2013 - 11:43 AM, said:

makes sense, been fighting loaaads of people with glad/r1 titles at 2.1-2.3k rating.

does this take into account people who havent played the 60 games or w/e to be eligible for title?

Being eligible for title doesn't have to do anything with the amount of players in the ladder, which is where the cutouts are calculated from (both Blizzard and player side)

Right now, everyone who has a ranking in the ladder (check the API pages) are calculated towards the cutouts and it doesn't depend if they have enough games played or not.

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This is how fast the ladder evolves:
When I created the topic, the ladder had 262042 players. Right now there's 262155 players. That's over 100 more in about 3 hours? That means that there is every 6th hour new Gladiator spot in the ladder, making 4 new Gladiator spots per day.

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View PostHiddenstalke, on 27 November 2013 - 01:32 PM, said:

Guys, dont forget 2 things - atm all battlegroups are in one and it is personal spots instead of team spots. so 1,3k spots ~ +400 teams.
Since everyone who played now counts and can't drop off makes the number bigger aswell.
The system is the exact same as last except the fact that more people count towards the titles since they cna't "disband spot".

But yeah, overall the number increased like 4 times compared to last seasons.

Exactly this.
400 teams divided to 16 battlegroups is 25 teams per battlegroup, which is pretty damn close to top BG's in EU (Misery had about 30 and Rampage had about 25). So it's pretty much the same as last season's numbers were, but now that the unified ladder is here and activity has gone down in 2k+ arena, it's pretty much onbvious that this is what is happening.

Edited by Crawthz, 15 January 2014 - 06:37 AM.

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 11:20 AM

2.1 :D lol

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 11:23 AM

no way? feels way too low

maybe i can send braindance a screenshot of my first glad title and my oxford acceptance letter and then i can be cool again

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 11:24 AM

so basically get red enchant, you got glad?

ok m8

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 11:26 AM

wat a joke

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 11:29 AM

percentage adjustments inc.

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 11:32 AM

View PostElorxo, on 27 November 2013 - 11:23 AM, said:

no way? feels way too low

maybe i can send braindance a screenshot of my first glad title and my oxford acceptance letter and then i can be cool again

Do the math yourself, get lowest rank and divide it with 200 and you get last Gladiator rank per ladder. Divide that number again with 5 and you get last r1 rank.

For example EU 3v3 right now:
262042 / 200 = 1310,21 - which is 1310 spots for Gladiator
1310,21 / 5 = 262,042 - which is 262 spots for Grievous Gladiator
or
262042 / 1000 = 262,042 - which is 262 spots for Grievous Gladiator
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Posted 27 November 2013 - 11:38 AM

View PostCrawthz, on 27 November 2013 - 11:32 AM, said:

Do the math yourself, get lowest rank and divide it with 200 and you get last Gladiator rank per ladder. Divide that number again with 5 and you get last r1 rank.

For example EU 3v3 right now:
262042 / 200 = 1310,21 - which is 1310 spots for Gladiator
1310,21 / 5 = 262,042 - which is 262 spots for Grievous Gladiator
or
262042 / 1000 = 262,042 - which is 262 spots for Grievous Gladiator

yeah you're right

guess it will probably increase towards the end of the season with people making pushes and rating inflation

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 11:41 AM

View PostElorxo, on 27 November 2013 - 11:38 AM, said:

yeah you're right

guess it will probably increase towards the end of the season with people making pushes and rating inflation

This - Won't expect glad to below 2300
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Posted 27 November 2013 - 11:42 AM

View PostElorxo, on 27 November 2013 - 11:38 AM, said:

yeah you're right

guess it will probably increase towards the end of the season with people making pushes and rating inflation

And at the same time more and more people will ding 90 and increases the number of players on the ladder. Obviously ratings are not set in stone, but for every new "Gladiator" rating there's probably 200 or more "Mr.Casual" who does one or two arenas to try it out and quit, which increases the cutout. Before people deleted their arena teams which kept the total region number of Gladiators/r1's low, but now you can't and this is what happens.

Also this pretty much shows that there's about 250k players who's tried out arena so far (first time we get to see such info) which is the same amount as s3 had in one battlegroup in EU >.<
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Posted 27 November 2013 - 11:43 AM

makes sense, been fighting loaaads of people with glad/r1 titles at 2.1-2.3k rating.

does this take into account people who havent played the 60 games or w/e to be eligible for title?

View PostBraindance, on 11 October 2013 - 12:44 PM, said:

Go listen to some Bieber shit and leave me alone fucko.

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 11:44 AM

blizz plz

Edited by Reedztv, 27 November 2013 - 11:44 AM.


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Posted 27 November 2013 - 11:45 AM

I guess 5s rating is a bit more realistic for what glad 3s will be closer to at the end of the season.

I hope.
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Posted 27 November 2013 - 11:45 AM

View PostSnuggli, on 27 November 2013 - 11:43 AM, said:

makes sense, been fighting loaaads of people with glad/r1 titles at 2.1-2.3k rating.

does this take into account people who havent played the 60 games or w/e to be eligible for title?

Being eligible for title doesn't have to do anything with the amount of players in the ladder, which is where the cutouts are calculated from (both Blizzard and player side)

Right now, everyone who has a ranking in the ladder (check the API pages) are calculated towards the cutouts and it doesn't depend if they have enough games played or not.
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Posted 27 November 2013 - 11:55 AM

This is stupid, might as well give glad titles for picking up flowers in front of OG/Stormwind. But hey , now everyone can have it so that everyone is happy, right?

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 12:00 PM

Rofl, #1 at 2400 :D Christmas presents for everyone!

We all knew it was gonna be like this though, with no more disbanding teams

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 12:13 PM

Might actually make more teams queuing to try and reach r1

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 12:18 PM

View PostNyeshyo, on 27 November 2013 - 11:41 AM, said:


This - Won't expect glad to below 2300

2300 is way too low for a title like Gladiator

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 12:21 PM

Might actually be harder to get titles from 5s now

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 12:22 PM

the average player thinks 2k is worth paying a few hundred thousand gold to get
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