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#41 Forumz

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Posted 23 December 2013 - 01:56 PM

View Postlol_awful, on 23 December 2013 - 01:46 PM, said:

Speaking of Koreans, almost all of them are running runic corruption instead of blood tap.. odd?
They're running full haste reforges + RC.

Basically it gives them really high single-target pressure, and allows them to keep that pressure up even in blood presence.

I'm not entirely convinced it's better than mastery/crit though.
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Posted 23 December 2013 - 02:19 PM

View PostForumz, on 23 December 2013 - 01:56 PM, said:

They're running full haste reforges + RC.

Basically it gives them really high single-target pressure, and allows them to keep that pressure up even in blood presence.

I'm not entirely convinced it's better than mastery/crit though.

Still in love with my Soul Reaper crits.
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Posted 24 December 2013 - 02:53 AM

View PostForumz, on 23 December 2013 - 01:56 PM, said:

They're running full haste reforges + RC.

Basically it gives them really high single-target pressure, and allows them to keep that pressure up even in blood presence.

I'm not entirely convinced it's better than mastery/crit though.

Have you tried it out? I probably will next time I'm on, if they're prioritizing haste what are they doing for secondary, mastery?

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Posted 24 December 2013 - 08:07 AM

View Postlol_awful, on 24 December 2013 - 02:53 AM, said:

Have you tried it out? I probably will next time I'm on, if they're prioritizing haste what are they doing for secondary, mastery?

Yea they all seem to be stacking Haste/Mastery. Some are going mastery/haste though, but not by much.
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Posted 24 December 2013 - 08:14 AM

survival UH Rsham
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Posted 24 December 2013 - 08:29 AM

What is Katsoura playing right now? I know he played Boomy DK Rsham at the beginning of the season but right now he's 2600 on his main and 2550 on his alt :o

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Posted 24 December 2013 - 09:19 AM

View PostForumz, on 23 December 2013 - 01:56 PM, said:

They're running full haste reforges + RC.

Basically it gives them really high single-target pressure, and allows them to keep that pressure up even in blood presence.

I'm not entirely convinced it's better than mastery/crit though.

But runic corruption decreases it's duration with the more haste you have.
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Posted 24 December 2013 - 09:24 AM

View PostLosiro, on 24 December 2013 - 08:29 AM, said:

What is Katsoura playing right now? I know he played Boomy DK Rsham at the beginning of the season but right now he's 2600 on his main and 2550 on his alt :o

DK/MW/Ele with Båten & Addenz.

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Posted 24 December 2013 - 11:30 AM

Ele/MW have incredible synergy together and I don't know why we don't see more people playing it.

It works with a DK because Ele and MW are both incredibly tanky so the lack of peels aren't an issue. The insane burst healing of MW + offheals from Ele makes DK almost immortal as well.
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Posted 24 December 2013 - 12:04 PM

View PostSikes, on 24 December 2013 - 09:24 AM, said:

DK/MW/Ele with Båten & Addenz.

I saw him play DK/Rdruid/Ele with MP and Zeepeye. I guess hes playing with both, lucky bastard.
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Posted 24 December 2013 - 12:33 PM

DK/Ele is also incredibly fun to play.

Too bad you need top tier Ele to make it work. The comp is definitely carried by the Elemental.
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Posted 24 December 2013 - 01:11 PM

View PostUrbandurban, on 24 December 2013 - 12:04 PM, said:

I saw him play DK/Rdruid/Ele with MP and Zeepeye. I guess hes playing with both, lucky bastard.

I think I may have been mistaken on the Addenz part, but yeah I've seen him queue with MP (on Druid) & Zeepeye too.

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Posted 24 December 2013 - 02:28 PM

Shadowcleave is insanely good i feel
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Posted 24 December 2013 - 06:03 PM

What healer would you suggest for scleave? When i tried it on my alt it seemed like our shaman just got tunneled down half the games and i felt like there wasn't much i could have done about it.  Good offense would be the best defense there right?

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Posted 24 December 2013 - 07:17 PM

View PostNeeeks, on 24 December 2013 - 06:03 PM, said:

What healer would you suggest for scleave? When i tried it on my alt it seemed like our shaman just got tunneled down half the games and i felt like there wasn't much i could have done about it.  Good offense would be the best defense there right?

i play with a shaman, and we didnt seem to struggle alot against most combs when it came to taking damage.
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Posted 24 December 2013 - 07:46 PM

View PostSikes, on 24 December 2013 - 09:24 AM, said:

DK/MW/Ele with Båten & Addenz.

since when does addenz play ele?
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Posted 25 December 2013 - 04:49 PM

Best advice I could give you is to not play any other than boomkin/dk/healer or Shadowcleave.

Let me begin with telling you the flaws of PHD. Firstly after cataclysm, dks haven't got much things to actually control the game than just pumping damage which isn't necessarily needed for a hunter comp. Believe me, I've met hunter comps as PHD and the only thing I can do is sit on their hunter while my hunter and my healer are trying to cordinate their cds together hoping to survive. I don't really have anything than just asphyxiate (which isn't even enough) to support my team with, Rets, warriors and enhancement shamans got way more things to support their team additional to damage. The only way damage will be something worthy is when you meet spellcleaves but that can also depend on how good your opponents are.

Let's compare it with Shadowcleave alright? So basically let's say we meet a hunter comp and you're meeting KFC or Thugcleave, what it ONLY require for you to survive them is whenever they try to approach your resto shaman (which may be your weakest point, but if your resto shaman is smart he should survive easily) he can, if not stupid actually use demonic gateway whenever you tell him to. Why should it come from the dk? Because the dk can use death grip or asphyxiate if the warrior decides to heroic leap to get back on our resto shaman or the rogue vanishing and cloak of shadow (subterfuge needs nerf kkthxbb). Additional to the beginning where it's all about going defensive, after that you can go on whoever you want except for the healer as shadowcleave against hunter comps. Later you'll see how they die like flies. Why you may ask? Cause you can damage them hard (cause of dots obviously) at the same time as you peel off your teammates. And against spellcleaves it's all depending on how good your team is.

And then dk/boomkin/healer which isn't directly effective as shadowcleave but it is handy, however the skillcap is high and your boomkin teammate is required not to be a LSD 2.0 hero (<----Very important). It's all about turtling, since the boomkin's offheals and CCs are compensations to the demonic gateway.

So a quick summary of Shadowcleave and dk/boomkin/healer:
  • Your teammates are required not to be dumb
  • Your teammates needs to understand common sense
  • Your warlock at some circumstances needs to be able to dmg even if he is getting focused. Pretty much a l2p issue, I've had loads of warlock partners who pretty much do nothing if they get focused.
  • Boomkin requires to be smart and actually know how to use his defensives properly.
Oh and I also forgot about how to beat mage/warr as shadowcleave. Well, peel off your rshaman during the whole game and stop the warr, otherwise if they go on you or the warlock. Consider it as a free win.

Same goes for boomkin/dk/healer but except that if they go on your rshaman or boomkin, you're screwed.

I only see shadowcleave or dk/boomkin/healer as the optional comps for high ratings. I'm not saying PHD is bad but you'll have to be really lucky with who you're meeting.

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Posted 25 December 2013 - 04:58 PM

Personally Scleave or PHDK are the best comps for a DK to play but even then you need to be a ton better then anyone else you end up meeting because its all RMX WMX LSD and other godmode comps.

Personally Unholycleave is still my favourite was playing it just sub 2.2k mmr near the start but Sp's suck so much and this season is just a joke it would be better to bench your DK and just play again next season.
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Posted 25 December 2013 - 06:48 PM

why is dk so unpopular :( ?

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Posted 25 December 2013 - 11:42 PM

View PostMiette, on 25 December 2013 - 06:48 PM, said:

why is dk so unpopular :( ?

Because as long as there is a melee who can provide more things than a dk can, they'll always be unpopular.




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