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#201 Seraphuslol

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Posted 10 December 2013 - 03:28 AM

There's a difference between being bitter and being truthful.

Being bitter would entail complaining about whats actually the problem with a class. Not only is MSR/SR not the issue with Warrior, but I was also just saying that its not a hard or high skill cap ability to use. It's like saying grabbing a fire extinguisher when you see something catch fire takes a lot of skill.

It doesn't.

it takes common sense.
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#202 sarma

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Posted 10 December 2013 - 03:30 AM

View PostSeraphuslol, on 06 December 2013 - 08:36 AM, said:

I guess I just have a problem with the fact that a buffed IBF could be stacked with it to completely cockblock any kill attempt.

Didnt see this one :D

Yes because :

Shieldwall + Die by the sword + defensive stance
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#203 Seraphuslol

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Posted 10 December 2013 - 05:41 AM

View Postsarma, on 10 December 2013 - 03:30 AM, said:

Didnt see this one :D

Yes because :

Shieldwall + Die by the sword + defensive stance

I'm not saying it doesn't happen, I'm saying it shouldn't happen.
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#204 Jeexlol

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Posted 10 December 2013 - 03:38 PM

warriors have defensive stance off gcd and passive while death knights have a 3 min cooldown that does LESS than that.

hahaha

If DK played with permanent icebound fort it would still take more damage than a warrior LOL



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Posted 11 December 2013 - 03:37 AM

blood presence is stronger against physical damage than defensive stance is, but since its weaker against wizards, dstance is overall more effective

#206 allzimardk

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 03:57 AM

^Not true it is %13 physical dmg reduc + %10 overall physical dmg reduc part decreases as the IL increase

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 01:51 AM

Gonna weight in on skill cap of abilities...

I have to agree with those saying MSR is high skill cap because the best warrs pretty much only use it as CC protection for their healers.  I rerolled a FOTM warr (which admittedly im not very good at) and even though I get the concept, im not great at MSRing CCs to protect my healer.  Before u call me a shitter, im nearly 2200 in 3s on my DK playing scleave in US  :P

As to ring of frost, I think thats a high skill cap ability too.  Through experience, I know top tier mages use it to reposition teams (and especially melee and quite effectively on Blades Edge and Dalaran) as much as CC.  If im getting train i just run into the ROF usually, but if not, it can force teams into bad spots which can cascade into great healer CC or a solid hard switch or big alleviation of offensive pressure.  Of course shitters are just guna throw ROF down arbitrarily and tell their teammates to stand in it - effectively creating a great peel anyways - but i find the repositioning aspect the high skill cap element.

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 01:32 PM

well said seadog

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 04:31 PM

Another day passed and we still got no buffs :(

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 04:44 PM

View PostDopeme, on 16 December 2013 - 04:31 PM, said:

Another day passed and we still got no buffs :(
Its not a day its expansion. Next one will fix                 boomkins probably.

But yes playing DK now is frustrating, everyone wants a warrior, rogue mage and enh, well sometimes a hunter.

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 05:07 PM

View Posta1entity, on 16 December 2013 - 04:44 PM, said:

Its not a day its expansion. Next one will fix boomkins probably.

But yes playing DK now is frustrating, everyone wants a warrior, rogue mage and enh, well sometimes a hunter.

Thank god or IRL friends and long term ingame friends then :D

#212 seadogsnrebz

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 01:43 AM

Holinka vindicated!  DK class viable! Revolutio just hit 2455!  Should probably nerf necrotic and ALL DEM TRINKETS!

On a serious note, wonder what comp he's playing.

#213 AxiomDK

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 02:31 AM

View Postseadogsnrebz, on 17 December 2013 - 01:43 AM, said:

Holinka vindicated!  DK class viable! Revolutio just hit 2455!  Should probably nerf necrotic and ALL DEM TRINKETS!

On a serious note, wonder what comp he's playing.

Telling you guys its def. vanguards cleave this season XD

But yeah, I am kind of curious what hes playing this season, will be interesting to find out ^.^
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Posted 17 December 2013 - 02:41 AM

I think its something with a hunter.

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 03:28 AM

View PostAxiomDK, on 17 December 2013 - 02:31 AM, said:

Telling you guys its def. vanguards cleave this season XD

wat

View Posta1entity, on 17 December 2013 - 02:41 AM, said:

I think its something with a hunter.

Ya prolly but id love to see a confirm and to know what healer class.  

Revolutio is a great player, probably played with R1 type ppls that most ppl dont have access to is my guess.

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 03:49 AM

View Postseadogsnrebz, on 17 December 2013 - 03:28 AM, said:

wat



Ya prolly but id love to see a confirm and to know what healer class.  

Revolutio is a great player, probably played with R1 type ppls that most ppl dont have access to is my guess.

Saw revo in streams playing phdk few times at 2100 mmr, i guess he had a lucky night, good FOTM teams weren't' queuing when he qued..

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#217 Losiro

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 04:32 PM

He's playing PHD with Verdant and Jellybeans right now, but got to around 2300 with Bustalolx.

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 04:40 PM

i am telling you guys grab a boomkin and a shaman friend and see the magic happen.

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Posted 18 December 2013 - 03:30 AM

View PostLosiro, on 17 December 2013 - 04:32 PM, said:

He's playing PHD with Verdant and Jellybeans right now, but got to around 2300 with Bustalolx.

Thanks Losiro.  U still running that TSG at ~2250?

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Posted 18 December 2013 - 12:00 PM

View Postseadogsnrebz, on 18 December 2013 - 03:30 AM, said:

Thanks Losiro.  U still running that TSG at ~2250?

Yeah, peaked at 2302 mmr yesterday before losing 4 in a row...




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