It can be easly tested by anyone and I hope it will be fixed really soon.
The funny thing is that it was bugged at blizzcon and I dont think it would change the results but still...
Edited by Rynd, 13 November 2013 - 04:35 AM.
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Posted 13 November 2013 - 04:34 AM
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Posted 13 November 2013 - 05:05 AM
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Posted 13 November 2013 - 05:11 AM
It wouldn't affect blizzcon because no shaman uses this... This is interesting though.
Good post take some rep my friend.
Actually I'm confused.. Post some pictures of it in a wargame or better yet I'll just do it myself.
Edited by wodeta, 13 November 2013 - 05:12 AM.
Posted 13 November 2013 - 05:29 AM
Well , Novuz did.
All the matches...
What are you confused about? the group part?
There's a bug, if you duel someone in your group, battle fatigue gets turned off.
Posted 13 November 2013 - 05:48 AM
Posted 13 November 2013 - 07:39 AM
I don't think this is a bug, as of right now Stone Bulwark is about on par with Nature's Guardian. If Stone Bulwark were to be affected by battle fatigue Nature's Guardian would be VASTLY superior.
Edited by wodeta, 13 November 2013 - 07:39 AM.
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Posted 13 November 2013 - 09:31 AM
It's always been like this. It's still inferior against many comps.. at least for enhance.
Posted 13 November 2013 - 10:15 AM
Then it has been always bugged and i'm sorry but it's not inferior for enhanc/ele, i agree its inferior for resto tho.
Edited by Okayenhance, 13 November 2013 - 10:32 AM.
Posted 13 November 2013 - 10:22 AM
It is inferior. At 500k health, which is what I assume we'll be near with full gear, NG is a 125k heal that can be activated while stunned/silenced every 30 seconds.
Stone Bulwark is great if you're going to reset your totems to use it twice in a row and are playing against a comp that relies on bursting you down. Outside of that, NG is better in nearly every case especially against teams that will CC you while they kill you (or kill the totem).
Enhances stone bulwark does NOT shield for 133k, maybe 75k at most initially and that's a totem (will be replaced if you need to drop earthbind or tremor) and it's on a 1 minute cooldown.
Posted 13 November 2013 - 10:34 AM
I've used it too, it just depends on the teams you're facing and what you're playing. If the game isn't going to go very long or the team your fighting relies on pressure a lot then SBT may be better; but in terms of overall output NG is still better.
Well you do have a point, but you still have to consider the absorbs every 5s and the amount pvp power increases it aswell.
I've been seeing some enhances using it at 2.2k+ and all the Eles are using it, so i guess it's something that should be fixed.
Edited by Okayenhance, 13 November 2013 - 10:39 AM.
Posted 13 November 2013 - 12:21 PM
Posted 13 November 2013 - 12:30 PM
Flameglow, ice barrier and angelic bulwark are all talents off the top of my head that have their arena viability slaughtered by battle fatigue, and if you ask some dks nicely you might get some view about how battle fatigue affects anti-magic shell
I guess what i'm saying is.. SBT may be bugged but even in it's bugged state its still debatable that it's even better than NG at all. If it were to be hit by battle fatigue it might as well be removed as a talent (again).
Edited by Dizzeeyo, 13 November 2013 - 12:35 PM.
No because the difference is when I play a comp i play it close to skill cap
if anyone needs to be banned, it's you. You do nothing but sit on AJ being a passive aggressive idiot that nobody likes, sorry you stink of washing up liquid.
Feel free to call me an idiot because I'm a hunter or some stupid ass remark but I've actually written all this down on paper
I actually made an appearance at DH2014 and I met up with people from twitch who were involved with the dota 2 / cs tournies that where there, I talked about the game from my perspective as a professional player and we actually shared a lot of opinions. All I'm saying is a lot of people will be VERY surprised about the future of this game in the esport world
Posted 13 November 2013 - 01:09 PM
Edited by Rynd, 13 November 2013 - 01:32 PM.
Posted 13 November 2013 - 01:26 PM
Nature's guardian gives you of 30% of your hp. Considering you have 470k hp:
470 x 3/10 = 141k hp every 30 sec.
The totem is healing your for 133 + 33 x 5 = 298k every one minute
So NG will be better, but the way it is right now is too much.
Posted 13 November 2013 - 01:44 PM
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