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#21 Schvetolga

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 06:48 PM

View Postxliquidx, on 11 November 2013 - 04:31 PM, said:

Mage....class that requires nothing to play since the beginning of WOW. Insane cc, insane defensive abilities, insane burst, insane mobility, good self heals. Of-course you don't want them to buff dks, so you can get free wins with a dk in the enemy team.

ice lancing requires skill :(...

Since MOP launch, Dks have been shit, we don't have tier 1, tier 2 or even a tier 3 comp. We will be lucky if any one wants to team up with us in this patch.

IMO, they need to buff AMS so it absorbs ALL inc damage for the duration and not have a cap on it(it would be nice to revert how AMZ was in WOTLK). Also, I am hoping they buff our mobility...we are the easiest melee to get peeled and additional Dmg buffs would be appreciated.

We dont need damage buffs. All we need is mobility and a buffed AMS (it's literally so fucking bad). Remove DesG if you want, I dont care. Just let me get some utility/mobility.
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Posted 11 November 2013 - 09:51 PM

Remove Desecrated Ground, replace with making DND a 5 second AOE Terror. (Hits only once, doesnt re-tick after first wears)

Make remorseless winter a 4 second Freeze effect instant, instead of a Stun.

Remove Necrotic Strike (Buff Scourge Strike to compensate)

Make Asphyxiate baseline, but share a CD with strangulate. (Make both 45 seconds)

Give Death's Advance the ability to break roots.

Repair AMS + Restore AMZ to how it used to be.

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just a few things I wouldn't mind seeing happen. DK needs a pretty hefty class redesign for WOD expansion imo
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Posted 11 November 2013 - 10:11 PM

We really shouldn't be adding more instant CC to this game. The Remorseless Winter design is actually really good because it rewards you for baiting a dispel before using it, but classes have too many options to get away from it as it is right now.

Hoping for WoD to reduce the amount of escapes each class has.
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Posted 12 November 2013 - 12:50 AM

View PostForumz, on 11 November 2013 - 10:11 PM, said:

Hoping for WoD to reduce the amount of escapes each class has.

Hoping for WoD to remove the super ability bloat that's in the game right now.
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Posted 12 November 2013 - 01:14 AM

It would be really refreshing for WOW to do a Back to the Basics sort of thing.
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Posted 12 November 2013 - 02:47 AM

remorseless winter just punishes the other team for having down syndrome

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 01:27 PM

Idk what exacyly this game needs but there's a lot of good ideas floating around...
Blizz needs to start giving people what they need, not what they want though, that's for sure.
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Posted 12 November 2013 - 06:03 PM

Bring back desecration. Buff ams. Allow AMZ (old version) and Lichborne. Make ibf not laughable.

Uh Dk identity is pressure master, healer killer, anti-caster, anti-mobility, force bad positioning.

In return drop conversion, des ground, Nubmorseless winter, ibf stun breaker, and make fdks do 99% reduced dmg in arena. Class fixed and fun again.

Our current identity as free points for caster cleaves and can't stay on a rdruid or mw monk is pathetic class design. At least blizz had a pvp summit... wait no dks invited? Bahahahaha

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 06:23 PM

View Postseadogsnrebz, on 12 November 2013 - 06:03 PM, said:

In return drop conversion, des ground, Nubmorseless winter, ibf stun breaker, and make fdks do 99% reduced dmg in arena. Class fixed and fun again.

Our current identity as free points for caster cleaves and can't stay on a rdruid or mw monk is pathetic class design. At least blizz had a pvp summit... wait no dks invited? Bahahahaha

Are you trying to say Frost DKs do more damage than Unholy DKs?

If you're trying to say that, I'm sorry but you're sadly sadly mistaken and/or you're doing it wrong.
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Posted 12 November 2013 - 06:29 PM

View PostSeraphuslol, on 12 November 2013 - 06:23 PM, said:



Are you trying to say Frost DKs do more damage than Unholy DKs?

If you're trying to say that, I'm sorry but you're sadly sadly mistaken and/or you're doing it wrong.

Nope I'm implying its a skill-less mongoloidian spec with no place in arena - and I'm embarrassed to rock the maroon nameplate with such mongs.

Edit: on a constructive note I'm just saying make Frost non-viable and balance around uh. Uh actually takes skill and is a lot more fun. Frost viability is the pussification of an otherwise fun and high skill capped class

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 08:53 PM

View PostSeraphuslol, on 11 November 2013 - 09:51 PM, said:

Remove Desecrated Ground, replace with making DND a 5 second AOE Terror. (Hits only once, doesnt re-tick after first wears)

Make remorseless winter a 4 second Freeze effect instant, instead of a Stun.

Remove Necrotic Strike (Buff Scourge Strike to compensate)

Make Asphyxiate baseline, but share a CD with strangulate. (Make both 45 seconds)

Give Death's Advance the ability to break roots.

Repair AMS + Restore AMZ to how it used to be.

...

just a few things I wouldn't mind seeing happen. DK needs a pretty hefty class redesign for WOD expansion imo

Never. I'm one of the few Death Knights who are against any removal of Necrotic Strike. It's the only thing I know as I started playing Death Knight in s8, but didn't PvP seriously until s9.
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Posted 12 November 2013 - 09:30 PM

Necrotic Strike is probably one of the most iconic spells in PvP.

View Postseadogsnrebz, on 12 November 2013 - 06:29 PM, said:

Uh actually takes skill and is a lot more fun.
I play both specs and I can safely say neither takes more skill than the other. And 'fun' is highly subjective.
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Posted 13 November 2013 - 12:09 AM

Just saying, any class/spec can go full mongo.
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Posted 13 November 2013 - 03:20 AM

View PostForumz, on 11 November 2013 - 10:11 PM, said:

The Remorseless Winter design is actually really good

Stopped reading here
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Posted 13 November 2013 - 11:42 AM

View Postsarma, on 13 November 2013 - 03:20 AM, said:

Stopped reading here

Too bad because you missed the part where I said the ability is shit because of it.
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Posted 13 November 2013 - 02:35 PM

View PostForumz, on 13 November 2013 - 11:42 AM, said:

Too bad because you missed the part where I said the ability is shit because of it.

So you're saying an ability is shit because of its good design?
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Posted 13 November 2013 - 02:37 PM

View PostSeraphuslol, on 13 November 2013 - 02:35 PM, said:

So you're saying an ability is shit because of its good design?

In a sea of badly designed spells, a well designed spell is shit.
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