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#1 TheGosuStandard

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Posted 09 November 2013 - 12:53 AM

Looks like we are getting a Pet buff (BM) and Petless Buff (MM/SV) as one of our talents.

https://twitter.com/...0629120/photo/1

I'll look out for the other two.

Full list of all class talents: http://www.mmo-champ...12#post23401912

Edited by TheGosuStandard, 09 November 2013 - 01:16 AM.


#2 Ansi

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Posted 09 November 2013 - 08:13 AM

It's AWESOME!

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Posted 09 November 2013 - 09:41 AM

that marks/surv talent simplifies the game and makes it less skillfull - bad talent

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Posted 09 November 2013 - 10:35 AM

I haven't played my hunter much so take my opinion with a grain of salt, but With or Without You just seems bad for MM/Surv. Unless they're revamping pets quite a bit, how is losing roar of sac, pet buffs, and pet cc worth a 30% damage increase? Not to mention the current version of Master's Call is unusable without a pet. On top of Nat's comment that it makes the game less skillful, it outright removes a lot of your utility. It forces you to take murder of crows, forces you to not take intimidation (which probably doesn't matter for a lot of people anyway, but the point stands) and I simply don't see how you can be ok with all of those losses/restrictions.

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Posted 09 November 2013 - 11:46 AM

i guess you gain 1 main pet ability like warlock sacrifice

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Posted 09 November 2013 - 11:52 AM

View PostDurok, on 09 November 2013 - 11:46 AM, said:

i guess you gain 1 main pet ability like warlock sacrifice

Source? Or is this speculation? I don't see anything that would indicate that.

Even if it's true, that only negates one of the many drawbacks.

#7 Barriery

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Posted 09 November 2013 - 11:55 AM

this is obviously a pve talent, it might work in pvp on some level too if hunter abilities get revamped as we were promised

edit: pve/rbg i should have said

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Posted 09 November 2013 - 12:35 PM

Assuming all changes are the same we can't live without pets.

Sac, Freedom, Pet Skill.

Bola damage isn't the best, and doesn't scale. Snipe is goodish. BM with With or Without You looks pretty fucking strong.

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Posted 09 November 2013 - 02:45 PM

View PostPolski, on 09 November 2013 - 11:52 AM, said:

Source? Or is this speculation? I don't see anything that would indicate that.

Even if it's true, that only negates one of the many drawbacks.

"i guess" heheheheheehehehheheheheeh

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Posted 09 November 2013 - 03:50 PM

Can't you just go in without a pet, call it out when you need it and dismiss when you're safe with that talent or am I missing something?

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Posted 09 November 2013 - 04:16 PM

Yo gais no need pet only swifty aimedshot powershot chim shot crits and win game ez mode.
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Posted 09 November 2013 - 05:46 PM

Dude all these talents suck balls

bola shot? terrible
snipe is pve shit
other 1 is a joke

joke game

life sucks

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Posted 09 November 2013 - 06:08 PM

none of these will be even remotely close to what they say now
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Posted 09 November 2013 - 06:39 PM

I remember blue posts on Q&As etc in the past said a number of times that hunters would be getting a 5.0 warlock style revamp in the bridge to the next xpac to make the specs more interesting and separate them so hopefully at the feature reveal in an hour or so they keep their word and show us something good.  As for the 3 new talents I cant see Bola Shot or Snipe staying for long since they seem pretty stale but Im pretty sure the With or Without You ( Lone Wolf ) will stay since pvers have been crying for this for a long time, I guess it could be good with some tweaking but if all it does is give you the damage increase and you cant keep RoS, MC etc then thats just lazy and boring design.

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Posted 09 November 2013 - 07:18 PM

With or Without you is a weird one for MM / Surv - 30% increased dmg is rly good, but the RoS and freedom loss is kinda big as well - I guess you can start with your pet out, keeping it if you have to go defense at the start - when you can go offense and go for the kill, Lullaby into full trap, dismiss and 30% increased dmg all over their *** - Also you lose pet buffs / and special abilities like stuns, sleeps, disarms and blinds ect. - The BM part is a good buff.

Snipe seems too much pve, almost 3 sec cast is long and easily interrupted, only with Rapid Fire up can that be good in my opinion - even have to stand still.

Bola Shot seems to be a CC breaker - If you trap the healer and the dps comes near the healer, the fire dmg will jump to him if they're in a 5 yard range - Not sure if it's entended as a dot or whatever, even glyph of solace won't help in that matter, or you will simply have to not use Bola Shot in trap situations or whatever idk - IF this is the case, With or Without you will be my pick at least, don't rly need Snipe if you're MM and going full haste.

Edited by Buh, 09 November 2013 - 07:29 PM.


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Posted 09 November 2013 - 11:00 PM

View PostPolski, on 09 November 2013 - 10:35 AM, said:

I haven't played my hunter much so take my opinion with a grain of salt, but With or Without You just seems bad for MM/Surv. Unless they're revamping pets quite a bit, how is losing roar of sac, pet buffs, and pet cc worth a 30% damage increase? Not to mention the current version of Master's Call is unusable without a pet. On top of Nat's comment that it makes the game less skillful, it outright removes a lot of your utility. It forces you to take murder of crows, forces you to not take intimidation (which probably doesn't matter for a lot of people anyway, but the point stands) and I simply don't see how you can be ok with all of those losses/restrictions.

They will have to change it so where you can use stuff like that especially since many of our talents rely on pets, perhaps with the mini-revamp they will do something along those lines.

But hey we are getting a quiver and new hunter weapon sound effects!

Edited by TheGosuStandard, 09 November 2013 - 11:04 PM.


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 01:41 AM

View PostPolski, on 09 November 2013 - 11:52 AM, said:

Source? Or is this speculation? I don't see anything that would indicate that.

Even if it's true, that only negates one of the many drawbacks.
sure its speculation otherwise blizzard would be really really dumb.
oh wait its blizz

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 01:43 PM

View PostTheGosuStandard, on 09 November 2013 - 11:00 PM, said:

They will have to change it so where you can use stuff like that especially since many of our talents rely on pets, perhaps with the mini-revamp they will do something along those lines.

But hey we are getting a quiver and new hunter weapon sound effects!

Quiver was confirmed? I only remember Chris (the art guy) saying he has some answers this year, but nobody asked about them, instead some mongoloid morons asked if their Real-ID list could be expanded...

I personally want to see quivers again, I'm sick of looking like yet another caster since they've removed them in cata for no reason...

As for the talents, I really like the ranger-style "Lone Wolf" thing, too bad it looks like a PvE only talent, and the BM version already looks like another S12 mongo mode...
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Posted 11 November 2013 - 02:28 PM

I like the lonewolf talent, hopefully we also gain the pets buff or something.


I would def use it
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Posted 11 November 2013 - 02:38 PM

I guess If you wanna play MM/Survi, you won't choose anything :) Empty talent CYA. 2 of them replacing base abilities that can't be replaced and 3rd is dogshit making Hunter even less skilled...




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