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#81 Saru93

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 02:36 PM

remember queing arenas without meeting russians? : 3

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 04:55 PM

View PostImSoAesthetic, on 29 October 2013 - 12:57 PM, said:

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whats that second picture is that even wow

#83 Diasleramo

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 05:06 PM

To be honest the way I see it, the game is actually a lot better than what it was in BC or Wrath. BUT we've all been playing it for so long that the experience is different now, more boring because we've seen it a million times and the game seems worse because we were having more fun at the time when the game was shittier. The nostalgia is what made the game so much "Better" in BC or Wrath. The mechanics, movement, graphics, and overall quality wasn't anything like it is now. However there were things back then that were a lot more fun for it's time . Does any of this make sense to you guys?

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 05:12 PM

View PostNadagast, on 28 October 2013 - 05:39 PM, said:

You young whippersnappers and your nostalgia for WoW.  I've got the same world nostalgia for EQ1, and the same PvP nostalgia for DAoC (and TBC/Wrath, too).

There should be a medication that selectively erases memories and lets us start gaming again from the perspective of a kid.  That'd be great.  :)

I'm not sure, mate.

I think I'd be rather lost without my nostalgic memories of this game.
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#85 Synexus

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 05:39 PM

View PostDiasleramo, on 29 October 2013 - 05:06 PM, said:

To be honest the way I see it, the game is actually a lot better than what it was in BC or Wrath. BUT we've all been playing it for so long that the experience is different now, more boring because we've seen it a million times and the game seems worse because we were having more fun at the time when the game was shittier. The nostalgia is what made the game so much "Better" in BC or Wrath. The mechanics, movement, graphics, and overall quality wasn't anything like it is now. However there were things back then that were a lot more fun for it's time . Does any of this make sense to you guys?
Mechanics-
You could easily tell the difference between a gladiator and a random 2k mage because the gladiator would bait out the cs and wand twice to delay the eventual poly. Good rogues would weapon swapping deadly poison as sub to protect wound from poison cleansing totem. Getting hard casts off were rewarding and realistic to do so, instants were mana inefficient(huge risk/reward) and could not create/alleviate  pressure by itself.
Movement-
Juking priest fears, warrior/hunter deadzone kiting, jumping roots,strafing cone of cold. Low amounts of mobility cds across all classes using them requires a lot of thought process and coordination.
Graphics-
Ok lol

There were terrible imbalances in tbc and wotlk but that was only an issue of numbers. Flat ARP was too strong, damage was too high for certain classes; If the numbers were tweaked it would have been a good game. Even if all the numbers are balanced now the game is terrible from a design standpoint.

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 06:05 PM

View PostDiasleramo, on 29 October 2013 - 05:06 PM, said:

To be honest the way I see it, the game is actually a lot better than what it was in BC or Wrath. BUT we've all been playing it for so long that the experience is different now, more boring because we've seen it a million times and the game seems worse because we were having more fun at the time when the game was shittier. The nostalgia is what made the game so much "Better" in BC or Wrath. The mechanics, movement, graphics, and overall quality wasn't anything like it is now. However there were things back then that were a lot more fun for it's time . Does any of this make sense to you guys?

The only difference between a 2k sp and a R1 sp is how good his partners are due to the sp being essentially a punching bag right now.

I don't remember it being like that before.
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Posted 29 October 2013 - 06:18 PM

you cant compare vanilla or tbc directly to mop rofl, thats like comparing the first tv ever built to a 50" flat screen
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Posted 29 October 2013 - 06:38 PM

View PostRegent, on 29 October 2013 - 03:44 AM, said:

You would have to be extremely delusion to not agree with the FACT that people like to do the best with the least amount of work (aka. fotm rerolling). PvP games are insanely, insanely insanely popular, much more than PvE games by far. LoL is the most popular game and its completely PvP. MMO developers just have this convoluted view that PvP has to be intertwined into PvE, but then always pick PvE balance and game development first.

Guildwars 2 did a good job separating PvE and PvP and everyone was pretty damn happy until the developers took 9 months for the first update that was promised 1 month after launch.

I absolutely guarantee you that I, and many other people on here, could do a better job at making WoW PvP balanced and fun than the developers have.

I don't entirely disagree. I think part of, if not the single greatest problem, is the fact that WoW has attracted such a casual audience. LoL attracts people who want to play that specific game type against other players. WoW seems to attract more people who want to slay dragons, quest, use it as a chatroom etc... So devs have continually catered to that audience (who are their main cash crop). I think WoW is unique in that sense and may be incomparable for that reason.
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Posted 29 October 2013 - 07:15 PM

PvP games have become insanely more profitable then PvE style games over the last decade


People play dota/fps/rts without any regard for the story quite often now


It's not a long shot to think blizzard will start putting a major focus onto the PvP aspect seeing as the game is dieing rapidly. Once content stops coming out the only people who will play are the dudes who are playing arena. They'll play no matter how old the game is. Fucking cs 1.6 is still popular as hell.

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 08:03 PM

i remember when hanging outside of ironforge was like all the rage.
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Posted 29 October 2013 - 10:22 PM

https://www.emeralddream.com/

blizzlike 1x vanilla server :duckers: lvling is easy i promise
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Posted 29 October 2013 - 11:18 PM

#NerfNerfNerf #ThisGameIsShit #BuffBuffBuff #NerfWarriors #MoPsux #CataSux #LoLWotlkHadSkill #<3Vanilla #TBCwasBEST #BlizzardCantBalance=TheyMustBeStupid #NoSkillReqAnymore #RemoveDK's #HeardMagesAreBadJK #2700EXPLock LF3v3 JKwascata #Båtenwintrade #TrilleGearAbuse #ShadowPriestSUX #ReckfulDontLeaveUsAgain #XD

Edited by Esylium, 29 October 2013 - 11:19 PM.


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Posted 29 October 2013 - 11:23 PM

View PostEsylium, on 29 October 2013 - 11:18 PM, said:

#NerfNerfNerf #ThisGameIsShit #BuffBuffBuff #NerfWarriors #MoPsux #CataSux #LoLWotlkHadSkill #<3Vanilla #TBCwasBEST #BlizzardCantBalance=TheyMustBeStupid #NoSkillReqAnymore #RemoveDK's #HeardMagesAreBadJK #2700EXPLock LF3v3 JKwascata #Båtenwintrade #TrilleGearAbuse #ShadowPriestSUX #ReckfulDontLeaveUsAgain #XD

why did you waste a minute of your life commenting this?

#94 Esylium

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 11:31 PM

View PostElorxo, on 29 October 2013 - 11:23 PM, said:

why did you waste a minute of your life commenting this?
It took more than a minute, I tell you that now.

How come you "waste" your precious time to reply? Hypocrite

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 11:32 PM

View PostEsylium, on 29 October 2013 - 11:31 PM, said:

It took more than a minute, I tell you that now.

How come you "waste" your precious time to reply? Hypocrite

because i'm really bored at 11:30 with nothing to do :(

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 12:04 AM

View PostSpeedymart, on 29 October 2013 - 07:15 PM, said:

It's not a long shot to think blizzard will start putting a major focus onto the PvP aspect
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Posted 30 October 2013 - 01:19 AM

I wish Blizzard would just release servers for certain patches. Have 1 TBC server and just test out to see how it does. They keep trying to convince us no one would use it and it would be too much work, but private servers are able to be set up by 1 person and thousands play them.

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 03:46 AM

View PostRegent, on 30 October 2013 - 01:19 AM, said:

I wish Blizzard would just release servers for certain patches. Have 1 TBC server and just test out to see how it does. They keep trying to convince us no one would use it and it would be too much work, but private servers are able to be set up by 1 person and thousands play them.

It's a mental defeat to see players completely abandon your modern work to play your older work. If they ever did this, it'd be a final cash grab to explore all options of keeping the game alive.
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Posted 30 October 2013 - 07:43 AM

View PostSpeedymart, on 30 October 2013 - 03:46 AM, said:

It's a mental defeat to see players completely abandon your modern work to play your older work. If they ever did this, it'd be a final cash grab to explore all options of keeping the game alive.

Lets be honest, WoW is already a shell of its former self. Runescape just did this and it was a huge success, made the game alive again - could do the same thing for WoW.

We all know unless there are some major changes in the way the game is being developed that the games days are numbered. Blizzard knows this too, hence them changing their original position on Titan (with Titan eventually replacing WoW.)

The game can only last so long adding new raids and shit like that, its basically the same stuff. Even the new-age/wrath babies are getting bored of it by now. Most vanilla/tbc players have already quit, and the ones who stuck around are just here out of habit. The SECOND a viable alternative to WoW comes out, WoW will flop over and die like a fish out of water. Blizzard is just lucky as hell all other developers hire incompetent people.

Edited by Regent, 30 October 2013 - 07:46 AM.


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Posted 30 October 2013 - 07:48 AM

Vanilla / end of BC I was 12 years old playing rogue. Clicked my spells and had my keyboard positioned all the way to the left since I used arrow keys to move.

I had some really fond memories of those times, I miss them.

Honestly some of the most fun of this game was the sheer naiveness we all had when we first played. Everything was so overwhelming, there were so many zones and quests and things to do. So many guilds and people to meet. It was all so exciting at first, I just wanted to go out and explore and level and all that. Nowadays most of us just get kicks out of arena ratings or whatever, but I remember when the games was so much more than that.

Edited by Glink, 30 October 2013 - 07:56 AM.

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