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#141 Regent

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 07:03 PM

View PostNadagast, on 02 November 2013 - 04:45 AM, said:

Maybe it's a damn hard thing to do, and you can fail even if you're not incompetent?  Maybe there's a huge advantage to being first?  What does failure even mean?  Lots of MMOs are still going along making a profit, even if they aren't nearly as successful as WoW is.

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Most MMOs are being released, and then trying to grab as much money as possible before no one plays them anymore. So yes, incompetent.

Edited by Regent, 02 November 2013 - 07:04 PM.


#142 Prolifics

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 09:43 PM

- Elemental plateau pvp in nagrand while trying to farm motes. Starts off as a 1v1, 2v1, 2v2, etc.. People call others in.. Next thing you know its a 5v5 or a guild v.s guild 10v10+ fight. Had some good times out there, haha.

- Being in full arena gear including off-set pieces in s2/s3 etc, joining a bg, and having everyone on your WSG team inspecting you and telling you they will follow you and give you heals. (because back in that day it was actually rare encountering someone in full arena gear including shoulders etc in a bg; and it actually meant something). Nowadays everyone and their mom has full gear so nobody even looks twice.

- Having to devote an entire AV weekend to grind honor for 1 off-piece like cloak / bracer, etc (back when shit used to cost like 27.5k). As opposed to now.. Being able to get 5+ pieces in a weekend.

- Auchindoun/ring of observence pvp in Terokkar. As mentioned, repeatedly getting ganked in Coilfang Reservoir trying to get into a heroic there, or SSC. Used to get my guild out there to gank pve-nerds and just camp it. That or entrance to Gruuls, lol.

- Tarren Mill vs Southshore. (or trying to level at all in hillsbrad, lol. Srsly was the worst area. Spending more time dead than actually leveling).

- That b.c/Vanilla  feeling of actually having to run to the entrance of a raid/instance etc to run something rather than q'ing up.

- Less than a minute queue times for 5's back in b.c.

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- CAPS LOCK CREW

old school arena'ers will get these last 2 points.

Edited by Prolifics, 02 November 2013 - 11:03 PM.


#143 Schvetolga

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 10:28 PM

View PostProlifics, on 02 November 2013 - 09:43 PM, said:

- Elemental plateau pvp in nagrand while trying to farm motes. Starts off as a 1v1, 2v1, 2v2, etc.. People call others in.. Next thing you know its a 5v5 or a guild v.s guild 10v10+ fight. Had some good times out there, haha.

- Being in full arena gear including off-set pieces in s2/s3 etc, joining a bg, and having everyone on your WSG team inspecting you and telling you they will follow you and give you heals. (because back in that day it was actually rare encountering someone in full arena gear including shoulders etc in a bg; and it actually meant something). Nowadays everyone and their mom has full gear so nobody even looks twice.

- Having to devote an entire AV weekend to grind honor for 1 off-piece like cloak / bracer, etc (back when shit used to cost like 27.5k). As opposed to now.. Being able to get 5+ pieces in a weekend.

I never had to spend an entire weekend to get 1 piece though as you gained alot more honor from a BG than you do now.
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#144 Selicia

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 10:33 PM

View PostRegent, on 02 November 2013 - 07:03 PM, said:

Most MMOs are being released, and then trying to grab as much money as possible before no one plays them anymore. So yes, incompetent.
Sad but true. NC-Soft is notorious for this. It's become a money grab just like universities. >_<
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#145 Prolifics

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 10:50 PM

View PostUrbandurban, on 02 November 2013 - 10:28 PM, said:

I never had to spend an entire weekend to get 1 piece though as you gained alot more honor from a BG than you do now.

I guess it depended on how hard you went. It was typically like ~1200'ish honor per win back then if I remember correctly. Either way it still took a LOT more wins to get a piece then.

Edited by Prolifics, 02 November 2013 - 10:51 PM.


#146 Chanimal

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#147 Deeklol

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Posted 03 November 2013 - 05:24 AM

Honestly i think the main reason everybody quit is because all of their friends stopped playing and its just not fun afking in durotar all day.
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#148 amirdaheat

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Posted 03 November 2013 - 11:21 AM

View PostDeeklol, on 03 November 2013 - 05:24 AM, said:

Honestly i think the main reason everybody quit is because all of their friends stopped playing and its just not fun afking in durotar all day.

but back in the days you didnt afk in durotar, you dueled in duelotar

edit: by trying out different builds, spells, tacts vs a certain class.

Edited by amirdaheat, 03 November 2013 - 11:22 AM.

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#149 Nadagast

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Posted 03 November 2013 - 10:58 PM

View PostRegent, on 02 November 2013 - 07:03 PM, said:

in·com·pe·tent:
not having or showing the necessary skills to do something successfully.

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Most MMOs are being released, and then trying to grab as much money as possible before no one plays them anymore. So yes, incompetent.

That definition of incompetent is not what I was going for.

I think you're very wrong to assume that other MMO designers are simply trying to 'grab as much money as possible before no one plays them anymore.'  They are made by passionate people who want to feel like they are accomplishing something, like their lives have a greater purpose.  That's not to say that nobody at these companies is just looking to get money, but I'm pretty sure that generally their plan is not to have 0 players after 6 months.

As a more general point, this is one of the worst things about discourse on the internet.  It's so often polluted with shortsighted, surface-level explanations of why things are the way they are.  Reality is complicated, and by claiming that some large group of people are idiots or evil, (as is often done) you're missing it.  You're missing the complicated nuanced layers of reality which are fucking interesting when you peel back the layers.  I don't claim to know why most other MMOs are not super successful, but I'm pretty sure it's not as simple as "everyone else is idiots."

#150 Vengeful95

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Posted 03 November 2013 - 11:31 PM

Does anyone remember how Gw2 was suppose to be the number 1 MMO? Pepperidge farm remembers. . .
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Posted 03 November 2013 - 11:36 PM

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