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#1 Potgrond

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 08:37 AM

Hey guys, sorry for the boring question that always pops up in every class subforum, but I felt like levelling my 80 rogue that I used to play a lot in WotLK but was wondering how strong they are atm and what their best comps are.

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#2 prokillur

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 02:05 PM

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#3 ukmadbaptist

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 02:15 PM

Best scaling melee dps.. can be dangerous in various setups (RMD, RMP right now)..

I think RLD/RLS will be decent aswell once everybody is full geared.. but right now they are outshined by warriors
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#4 boneheded

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 02:31 PM

Meh.... outshined is a understatement. If you are farted on by most other classes you'll die so be prepared to run. I still find it amazing that other leather wearing classes have so much self healing. We get a 1% buff to recuperate and Blizz thinks everything is alright. Stupid.
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#5 The_Observer

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 02:52 PM

Best scaling melee dps.. can be dangerous in various setups (RMD, RMP right now)..

Can't help but notice the M in both those would have most to do with anything on those comps so doesn't speak of rogues that much. A hint the rogue, isn't the dangerous one in those.

Theres a reason rogues are at 4% rep and mages are at 10% and warriors are at 21%. Until those get nerfed rogues can only really just get carried by them and be there just for tricks and prey. Rogues are no better off than they were in 5.3 if warriors get nerfed, but they are worse off than 5.3 as long as warriors stay as they are.
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#6 Euerfeldi

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 02:57 PM

Singletarget burst with shadowblades, tricks, stun and MVD feels better than warrior with reck and CDs.
Subterfuge with CS spam is funny with Nerve Strike is good.
Burst of speed spam is hilarious to kite melees or perma 170%+ speed in stealth.
Try Mutilate with paralytic poison, you get almost instant stun after envenom.
It's much easier to get opener with subterfuge, tricks, 130 energy and MVD/POTW. You can bring your enemy to 20% in the opener.
Survivability feels really weak, you almost everytime try to get behind a pillar and restealth after your cooldowns/opener.

TLDR: If you get a good opener, you destroy, but if they open on you, you get destroyed :P
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#7 The_Observer

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 03:03 PM

Singletarget burst with shadowblades, tricks, stun and MVD feels better than warrior with reck and CDs.

TLDR: If you get a good opener, you destroy, but if they open on you, you get destro :Pyed


tldr: If you get 5 crits in a row with dance/blades with your 30% or less crit the dmg is crazy. And thats only if no one peels on top of that rng.

Rogue dmg is only insane if the rng is insane

Burst of speed spam is hilarious to kite melees or perma 170%+ speed in stealth.

Doesn't really work out with the amount of gap closers and stuns on the rest of the melee.
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Posted 12 October 2013 - 03:43 PM

Unless you play a comp that can cross CC entire enemy team and their pet's pets,which then allows you to get dances off and score a kill, then go ahead. If you are not playing a comp that has the potential to CC EVERYONE on the enemy team, then you are better off with not even trying,because it just gets frustrating how any class has 10 ways of slamming their dick into keyboard and completely destroying your dance.
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#9 korzal

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 04:12 PM

rogues will be good (read: more than 2 "real" comps) if warriors get nerfed. otherwise you're gonna be stuck with a mage.
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#10 Honeyloopxd

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 04:31 PM

Rogue are good and will do really well later on this season :duckers:
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#11 Maumaux

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 08:46 PM

Play warrior
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#12 fearco

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 04:06 PM

Rogue are good and will do really well later on this season :duckers:

I agree, In 3v3 i can't wait to have a decent rogue partner.
In 2v2 it isnt so good, its warriors vs warriors allover.
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#13 Karlottey

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 02:05 AM

REALLY REALLY nice
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#14 skeetFace

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 12:41 PM

Singletarget burst with shadowblades, tricks, stun and MVD feels better than warrior with reck and CDs.
Are u kidding me ?

Edited by skeetFace, 21 October 2013 - 12:48 PM.

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#15 Jaymson

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 03:11 PM

do any of u kids run arenas ? nobody uses BoS
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#16 Owslend

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 04:07 PM

Singletarget burst with shadowblades, tricks, stun and MVD feels better than warrior with reck and CDs.
Are u kidding me ?


it does, they have way better burst than wars. as for paladin enhance rogues look less efficient than those 2 but ret enh don't have the cc pressure etc.
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#17 prokillur

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 01:42 PM

http://www.worldofwa...-0-0-0-0-0.html

Rogues worst represented class 1800+

Arms Warrior has double the representation of any other spec
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#18 zenton

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 11:12 PM

http://www.worldofwa...-0-0-0-0-0.html

Rogues worst represented class 1800+

Arms Warrior has double the representation of any other spec



I think it's mostly because the gap in skillcap between the two specs.
If you manage to setup well-coordinated (cross)cc's paired up with your burst cds and energy you can do some serious damage while as warrior you can do decent pressure without even playing the class to its maximum skillcap (wich was also lowered in a great manner).
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#19 zenton

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 11:14 PM

do any of u kids run arenas ? nobody uses BoS


And for this, BoS is realy strong against paladins mages and druids.
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Posted 25 October 2013 - 11:56 PM

http://www.worldofwa...-0-0-0-0-0.html

Rogues worst represented class 1800+

Arms Warrior has double the representation of any other spec


Epic. There are more prot paladins, prot warriors, and arcane mages in arena than there are sub rogues global.
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