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#1 Donie

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 08:30 PM

Yo fellow punchers.

So long waited 5.4 arrived and it seems to be very promising for us, however I've got a couple of concerns and just want to ask if you guys felt the same.

1. Our energy regeneration in arena. Since we still have the same gear we had, I feel that our regen is like 20% lower then it used to be with pretty much the same uptime we had. I even started to think of forging some haste out of mastery.

2. TEB+mastery .. I just dont see any of those extra procs.. I have like 35% mastery but I barely notice the extra procs .. dont know maybe its just me.

3. The new rushing jade shizle.. prolly craziest thing.. I actually dropped the tiger coz I hated it so much for the broken ccs that damn pet did! Though using the wind only viable after stacks are popped at least i think so. Not using it for chi generation, worthless BUT

Pop TEB > RJW > FoF > RSK and its a 100% cd/trinket from the opposing team. when stacks are popped the thing was criting 20-25k per sec which is pretty sick.

4. Our healing it is too fuckin OP, I dont say its bad hehe, but u'll see 2-3 weeks or next hotfix we gettin a nerf on that one.. (saw Venfuki doin 3s.. he did 9mil dmg and 5mil healing, he doubled vanguards healing, and did almost half of cdews)

All in all, our wish to get paralysis on diff DR weren't heard.. and i really wanted Fortyfying brew to be used while stunned but I think we are in a really good shape atm, might be a bit op but still :)

cheers!

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 11:17 PM

For the amount of haste you need to get 1 extra point of regen per sec it is almost not with getting any haste now

I think the mastery is bugged or something because it was proccing off of chi brew for me on the ptr and on live it isnt

I like RJW too but I feel like the only way it it going to be viable in arena is with Ascension and Chi Brew is too good to pass on imo, but 2 storm earth + fire clones and rushing jade wind is amazing

I feel like we dont need any defensive buffs after the resil change, on the ptr it felt like monks were invincible, I ran around on the new island with that item that makes you hostile to everyone and only died about 2 times last night after a few 1v3s against full pve geared people

p.s. Chi burst is real as fuck
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my chi burst wombo combo = Tigereye Brew -> Rising sun kick -> chi brew or Jab if on cd -> chi burst -> fist of fury-> chi brew or expel if on cd -> rising sun kick

Edited by Marshmellow, 12 September 2013 - 11:21 PM.

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Posted 14 September 2013 - 07:11 PM

Anyone that have played plenty of arena games on the PTR who knows if going full mastery is good now ? or is going full crit still better?

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Posted 14 September 2013 - 07:43 PM

View PostSoku, on 14 September 2013 - 07:11 PM, said:

Anyone that have played plenty of arena games on the PTR who knows if going full mastery is good now ? or is going full crit still better?

on the ptr I was doing 40% mastery and then full crit after that, and that was working really good

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 07:27 PM

View PostMarshmellow, on 12 September 2013 - 11:17 PM, said:



p.s. Chi burst is real as fuck



Got a 109k Chi Burst in a bg today...could be interesting

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 09:22 PM

I can't even keep up with all of the WW threads we have at this point - I'm too old to remember what each one is about!  #takecareoftheoldmangamers

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Posted 16 September 2013 - 02:11 PM

View Postbrad235, on 15 September 2013 - 07:27 PM, said:

Got a 109k Chi Burst in a bg today...could be interesting

yep. had a 200k offheal with it too (with 10 stacks)

problem is that its a skillshot :/

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 06:38 AM

anyone tried a haste build with RJW?

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 04:17 PM

View PostSoku, on 17 September 2013 - 06:38 AM, said:

anyone tried a haste build with RJW?

You pretty much need full haste to play with RJW so you don't constantly energy starve yourself if you want to keep full uptime on it, I was playing it in wargames last night stacking full haste and never energy starved myself, but that was only using it with Trinket procs and TeB though.

Edited by Marshmellow, 17 September 2013 - 06:22 PM.

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 05:26 PM

View PostMarshmellow, on 17 September 2013 - 04:17 PM, said:

You pretty much need full haste to play with RJW so you don't constantly energy starve yourself, I was playing it in wargames last night stacking full haste and never energy starved myself, was only using it with Trinket procs and TeB though.

I take that as a "this isnt better than crit / mastery or mastery / crit" ;)

I would imagine the damage is pretty high if it doesnt completely starve yourself with it: :)

Nice that you were able to test it in wargames rather than bgs.

Seem to be able to do a pretty sweat burst combo with 5-10 teb stack -> chi wave -> rjw > fof(with RSK debuff ofc)

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 08:22 PM

View PostMarshmellow, on 17 September 2013 - 04:17 PM, said:

You pretty much need full haste to play with RJW so you don't constantly energy starve yourself if you want to keep full uptime on it, I was playing it in wargames last night stacking full haste and never energy starved myself, but that was only using it with Trinket procs and TeB though.

You're saying without full haste you cannot spec RJW at all without feeling starved or only if you're trying to keep it up constantly?  I like the idea of using it for burst with FoF and Chi Burst, but not having it constantly up (especially since it will break cc).

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 08:58 PM

View PostUdderly, on 17 September 2013 - 08:22 PM, said:

You're saying without full haste you cannot spec RJW at all without feeling starved or only if you're trying to keep it up constantly?  I like the idea of using it for burst with FoF and Chi Burst, but not having it constantly up (especially since it will break cc).

It's not worth having it up constantly, only worth it during trinket procs and Tigereye brew imo, I'm going 5% haste for the 5.5 sec duration and stacking crit after that.
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Posted 18 September 2013 - 06:48 AM

i have been using RJW all day today, and you just need to use it sparingly. imo better than tiger, and if you use it correct, you should never feel energy starved.

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 07:45 AM

I saw some of the top windwalker are going for 2 options regarding the stats...

Full out mastery > 3-4% haste > crit
8-9% haste > crit > mastery

Both options are for Ascention and I am kind of confused.. I'm going with mastery build myself and was wondering what is actually better?

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 11:17 AM

View PostDonie, on 03 October 2013 - 07:45 AM, said:

I saw some of the top windwalker are going for 2 options regarding the stats...

Full out mastery > 3-4% haste > crit
8-9% haste > crit > mastery

Both options are for Ascention and I am kind of confused.. I'm going with mastery build myself and was wondering what is actually better?

pretty much because every high ww monk I see has a different playstyle from all the others, there is a lot of viable ways to build stats as ww it just depends on how you play and what you play with
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Posted 05 October 2013 - 09:28 PM

How has damage felt this patch? Mine feels really weak compared to other classes (DK,Warrior etc..)

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 04:59 PM

View PostCalmdownbro, on 05 October 2013 - 09:28 PM, said:

How has damage felt this patch? Mine feels really weak compared to other classes (DK,Warrior etc..)

WW does stupid damage.

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 06:05 PM

View PostPandalol, on 07 October 2013 - 04:59 PM, said:

WW does stupid damage.

God, this. I hit a mage for 187k in an arena match. Not that I'm complaining, but wtf.

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 10:01 PM

View PostTinh, on 07 October 2013 - 06:05 PM, said:

God, this. I hit a mage for 187k in an arena match. Not that I'm complaining, but wtf.

this, its pretty retarded how hard RSK hits with s14 weapons, they need to take some damage off of RSK and put it on blackout kick or just reduce the crit damage on rsk by 10%ish
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Posted 08 October 2013 - 11:45 AM

View PostMarshmellow, on 07 October 2013 - 10:01 PM, said:

this, its pretty retarded how hard RSK hits with s14 weapons, they need to take some damage off of RSK and put it on blackout kick or just reduce the crit damage on rsk by 10%ish

shhhht..... don't take my big crits away :< besides...getting to 10 stacks still takes so long imo compared to other classes (read warriors) that just run in every game, immediatly pop cds and pew

edit: actually you can nerf RSK, if you fix WW hitbox

Edited by Darthgnoe, 08 October 2013 - 11:47 AM.





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