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#1 citric

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 10:33 PM

With some of the changes to the lvl 60 and lvl 90 talents will Swave/Avatar still be the normal thing to run or will it be more diverse/depending on comp. In my exp on the PTR BladeStorm/BloodBath hav been really strong together along with BladeStorm/StormBolt. Just wondering what others thoughts are on this.

#2 Piffzorz

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 10:39 PM

I think the talents we choose will be dependent on the comp we are running, not so much what we are playing against

SW/Avatar will most likely be best playing a cleave comp, I had little success with bladestorm but I did have a lot of fun using bloodbath/bladestorm as WLP and it seemed pretty good, probably go with both stuns in a comp like spriest/warrior where i just want to control, we have a lot of options with these talents

Our lvl 75 talents can also be changed around a lot depending on personal preferance and stuff, also would be choosing those more for what ur against rather than what ur playing

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 10:39 PM

There is actually 3 specs, if u want pure damage no cc go BS/BB, if u want a little bit of utility and good damage go SB/BS. If u want high damage burst and utility u can go for the "normal spec" which is Swave/Avatar. Imo in 3s the two viable comps are gonna be Swave/avatar and SB/BS. In 5s and rbg's BB/BS might be rly good for cleaving

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 02:14 AM

View Postsuperplowxzz, on 06 September 2013 - 10:39 PM, said:

There is actually 3 specs, if u want pure damage no cc go BS/BB, if u want a little bit of utility and good damage go SB/BS. If u want high damage burst and utility u can go for the "normal spec" which is Swave/Avatar. Imo in 3s the two viable comps are gonna be Swave/avatar and SB/BS. In 5s and rbg's BB/BS might be rly good for cleaving
Blood bath does absolutely no damage. Its only saving grace is the slow, which is only good with bladestorm, which you won't be taking anyway.

Everyone will run SW/Avatar. If you're not running avatar, its because you're running a comp where storm bolt plays a key part of a CC chain. Bladestorm did good damage before they buffed resil, but now it's back to being garbage.
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Posted 07 September 2013 - 04:41 AM

View PostSpeedymart, on 07 September 2013 - 02:14 AM, said:

Blood bath does absolutely no damage. Its only saving grace is the slow, which is only good with bladestorm, which you won't be taking anyway.

Everyone will run SW/Avatar. If you're not running avatar, its because you're running a comp where storm bolt plays a key part of a CC chain. Bladestorm did good damage before they buffed resil, but now it's back to being garbage.
AHAHAHAHaHAhAhAAHaH i was about to make the EXACT same post LOL

View Postjustchecking, on 10 November 2014 - 11:58 PM, said:

Going to blizzcon looking for a fight is like going to the official wow arena forums for pvp advice :)

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 08:21 AM

Btw MS is buffed on PTR from 175% to 215% just noticed LOL

View Postjustchecking, on 10 November 2014 - 11:58 PM, said:

Going to blizzcon looking for a fight is like going to the official wow arena forums for pvp advice :)

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

#7 Shawir

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 08:30 AM

god bless

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 08:54 AM

Take Shockwave Stormbolt when you need those stuns for peels or setting up traps. Or when you need cc.
Take Bullshit (bladestorm) and avatar when you wanna be damage bot.

CHange talents between fights!!

#9 dogknightskillclass

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 09:07 AM

View PostBraindance, on 07 September 2013 - 08:21 AM, said:

Btw MS is buffed on PTR from 175% to 215% just noticed LOL

Lol, yeah wtf xD


Mortal Strike crit with CS up on dummy on live = 112k.
Mortal Strike crit with CS up on dummy on PTR = 195k

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 09:09 AM

View Postdogknightskillclass, on 07 September 2013 - 09:07 AM, said:

Lol, yeah wtf xD
:DD

View Postjustchecking, on 10 November 2014 - 11:58 PM, said:

Going to blizzcon looking for a fight is like going to the official wow arena forums for pvp advice :)

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 10:36 AM

wtf did ms rly got buffed? any blue posts that can confirm this? Or is it just a ptr bug?

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 10:46 AM

View PostSpeedymart, on 07 September 2013 - 02:14 AM, said:

Blood bath does absolutely no damage.

Is BB still double dipping on resilience?

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 10:49 AM

So basically SW/Avatar will still be the way to go compared to BS/BB or Stormbolt

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 10:58 AM

View PostOcypode, on 07 September 2013 - 10:49 AM, said:

So basically SW/Avatar will still be the way to go compared to BS/BB or Stormbolt

I havn't even played SW/Avatar on PTR yet, only been going with BS/Stormbolt and I love it.

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 02:17 PM

View PostBraindance, on 07 September 2013 - 08:21 AM, said:

Btw MS is buffed on PTR from 175% to 215% just noticed LOL
Holy shit

Just checked myself, it's 215%.

Fuck yes
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Posted 07 September 2013 - 03:58 PM

Wow. Cs>Ms> Slam spam is gonna fuck people up

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 04:51 PM



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Posted 07 September 2013 - 05:44 PM

FUCK YEAH IT IS INTENTED THX GOD

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 06:29 PM

View PostEvilcow, on 07 September 2013 - 10:46 AM, said:

Is BB still double dipping on resilience?

It has never been.

I tested on release and was working fine.
Never tested again but from time to time someone twitted about it and the answer always has been that it was not double dipping, so I guess it never did.

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 07:54 PM

BB does not double dip on resil. As well, it ignores damage reductions(or does on live).

And the only reason why BB seems to do terrible damage is simply because most of the time you do not get a chance to build it up. It's an ability that gets completely shut down if you get CC'd a bit during it, have to swap targets with it up or if the player you are hitting pops a CD early.

It's build up damage. And it can actually do a pretty good amount of damage for a one minute CD. You just need to be able to use it properly(pve rotation into a target for 12sec).

Edited by Deonto, 07 September 2013 - 07:55 PM.

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