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#81 meowkitty13

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 03:31 AM

I understand that Crit and Mastery are most likely the best stats for PvP now, but I prefer Haste because I like the fast-paced play style. I implore all fellow Death Knights to not blindly copy high-rated DKs - they use what's best for THEM, not what's best for YOU. If you find that you like Mastery, play Mastery. If you like Crit, play Crit. If you like Haste, play Haste.

#82 Phillol

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 02:00 AM

View Postmeowkitty13, on 21 September 2013 - 03:31 AM, said:

I understand that Crit and Mastery are most likely the best stats for PvP now, but I prefer Haste because I like the fast-paced play style. I implore all fellow Death Knights to not blindly copy high-rated DKs - they use what's best for THEM, not what's best for YOU. If you find that you like Mastery, play Mastery. If you like Crit, play Crit. If you like Haste, play Haste.
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#83 Yubel

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 03:40 AM

View Postmeowkitty13, on 21 September 2013 - 03:31 AM, said:

I understand that Crit and Mastery are most likely the best stats for PvP now, but I prefer Haste because I like the fast-paced play style. I implore all fellow Death Knights to not blindly copy high-rated DKs - they use what's best for THEM, not what's best for YOU. If you find that you like Mastery, play Mastery. If you like Crit, play Crit. If you like Haste, play Haste.

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 04:27 AM

View PostYubel, on 22 September 2013 - 03:40 AM, said:

enjoy your titles this season

Please kill yourself.

You're fucking annoying and unconstructive.


Edit: + you're literally only 50 rating higher than him as triple dps lol wtf u r shit actually

Edited by Nixonxx, 22 September 2013 - 04:28 AM.

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 05:08 AM

Yubel:


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Nice, you own faggot

Edited by Nixonxx, 22 September 2013 - 05:09 AM.

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#86 Darthgnoe

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 05:51 PM

View PostNixonxx, on 22 September 2013 - 04:27 AM, said:

Please kill yourself.

You're fucking annoying and unconstructive.


Edit: + you're literally only 50 rating higher than him as triple dps lol wtf u r shit actually

I think he was being srs, just saying

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 06:24 PM

View PostDarthgnoe, on 22 September 2013 - 05:51 PM, said:

I think he was being srs, just saying

I was being serious lmao. Idk who this nixon kid is but obviously he's an observer from the shadows who hates me.

edit: also where is he getting triple dps from?....

Edited by Yubel, 22 September 2013 - 06:26 PM.

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#88 Nixonxx

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 09:13 PM

View PostYubel, on 22 September 2013 - 06:24 PM, said:

I was being serious lmao. Idk who this nixon kid is but obviously he's an observer from the shadows who hates me.

edit: also where is he getting triple dps from?....

Be careful as to what you refer to me as.

You really don't want to upset me =)
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Posted 22 September 2013 - 11:22 PM

Seeing most top dks play haste, I plan on trying it out soon. Personally I dont really like haste because I feel I always have an abundance of runes to use once I connect. Dks have pretty bad mobility and haste really only gets full benefit if you have high uptime.

I really like mastery because it affects dots, ss, garg, blood boil, soul reaper and death coil. You dont even need to be connecting to your target to gain the benefit of mastery. If youre being kited, haste isnt all that useful. But with mastery its still doing the job.

Tried out crit too but didnt really seem too appealing to me.
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Posted 23 September 2013 - 12:10 AM

It's time to go outside Nixon. <3

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 12:36 AM

View PostNixonxx, on 22 September 2013 - 09:13 PM, said:

Be careful as to what you refer to me as.

You really don't want to upset me =)

hahah wtf, gayest shit ive read all week. Calm down son

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#92 Nixonxx

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 02:37 AM

View PostCallyo, on 23 September 2013 - 12:36 AM, said:

hahah wtf, gayest shit ive read all week. Calm down son

okay dude u r really good i will listen to what you have to say
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#93 horyshit

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 07:10 AM

i was enjoying this thread please fuck the fuck off and stay on topic pls

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 12:05 PM

View PostNixonxx, on 22 September 2013 - 09:13 PM, said:

Be careful as to what you refer to me as.

You really don't want to upset me =)
lol really?

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 12:51 PM

View PostNixonxx, on 22 September 2013 - 09:13 PM, said:

Be careful as to what you refer to me as.

You really don't want to upset me =)


rofl
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Posted 23 September 2013 - 12:53 PM

Played Shadowcleave yesterday with crit>mastery>haste build.

Spread damage is insane. Also SR crits are so tasty. Crit a resto shaman for ~125k.
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Posted 23 September 2013 - 02:33 PM

View PostPhillol, on 23 September 2013 - 12:05 PM, said:

lol really?

ya dude, 100% serious man
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Posted 23 September 2013 - 03:51 PM

View PostForumz, on 23 September 2013 - 12:53 PM, said:

Played Shadowcleave yesterday with crit>mastery>haste build.

Spread damage is insane. Also SR crits are so tasty. Crit a resto shaman for ~125k.
You might blame my more offensive style of play and maybe my lack of knowleadge with the new resilience formula but from what I was told and seen, the resil you obtain from trinkets isn't an actual 10% dmg reduction, since we've gone from 72-> to 74 and people who are using the meta are sitting around 75,1x resilience, I felt like maybe the use of the 2 pvp trinket isnt nessecery and I was looking foward acquired a PVE trinket of some sort(maybe stick with xuen for now) and later in the season it will scale up from 496 to 522

p.s shadow cleave is really fun and very strong, beats most comps I had been struggling with last patch with broken AMS and stuff

Edited by Phillol, 23 September 2013 - 03:53 PM.


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Posted 23 September 2013 - 09:10 PM

Stop trying to sabotage my thread with irrelevant posts. Stay on topic -- not pick fights with other forum users.

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 09:52 AM

View PostPhillol, on 23 September 2013 - 03:51 PM, said:

You might blame my more offensive style of play and maybe my lack of knowleadge with the new resilience formula but from what I was told and seen, the resil you obtain from trinkets isn't an actual 10% dmg reduction, since we've gone from 72-> to 74 and people who are using the meta are sitting around 75,1x resilience, I felt like maybe the use of the 2 pvp trinket isnt nessecery and I was looking foward acquired a PVE trinket of some sort(maybe stick with xuen for now) and later in the season it will scale up from 496 to 522

p.s shadow cleave is really fun and very strong, beats most comps I had been struggling with last patch with broken AMS and stuff

I've thought about using my coins to buy the alacrity trinket as well (dropping pvp trinket bonus is a reduction loss of ~8.3%), and I'd probably run some hc endless spring for the identical trinket from the water spirit boss. Could give some crazy damage output when they proc.

Whenever teams seemed to go for me the dmg reduction seemed invaluable however; mainly allowing me to stay in unholy presence much more often.

Also, while we're at it, when I played Scleave we struggled with huntercleaves mainly; x/hunter/holy priest, CC never ends. Can never get the pressure going because all my warlock and healer were doing was running.
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