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#61 Covlol

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Posted 02 September 2013 - 04:06 AM

View PostNerdstomperr, on 02 September 2013 - 01:50 AM, said:



sry but warriors do suck if you have not notice every team has a hunter farel priest shaman lock on it jk but warriors are good right derp

You're obviously talking about live, where you would be correct, however on ptr, which is what we are actually talking about, warriors are in a great spot. Not op, but not trash either.
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#62 Pinka

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Posted 02 September 2013 - 12:30 PM

After seeing and playing around 150 different arena games around 1800- 2200 i managed to find 2 teams with a warrior. What is even more funny. Being a warrior myself. They were a breeze compared to all the feral, hunter, rets and dks you see flying around.

Stop living in a dream people. Warrs needed buffs. Which they got. And if warriors are viable again it only means. Mission accomplished.

If they are op. Which i highly doubt since dk and monk which are on live just superior warriors. Got the same equality of dmg buffs.

Also. Most ppl say the class they do not play = op. So what does op mean? Op = balanced?

Sorry. If you like to fight target dummies. Arenas is not your place.

Edited by Pinka, 02 September 2013 - 12:37 PM.

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#63 Moshe

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Posted 02 September 2013 - 12:50 PM

View PostPinka, on 02 September 2013 - 12:30 PM, said:

After seeing and playing around 150 different arena games around 1800- 2200 i managed to find 2 teams with a warrior. What is even more funny. Being a warrior myself. They were a breeze compared to all the feral, hunter, rets and dks you see flying around.

Stop living in a dream people. Warrs needed buffs. Which they got. And if warriors are viable again it only means. Mission accomplished.

If they are op. Which i highly doubt since dk and monk which are on live just superior warriors. Got the same equality of dmg buffs.

Also. Most ppl say the class they do not play = op. So what does op mean? Op = balanced?

Sorry. If you like to fight target dummies. Arenas is not your place.

It's not the first or last time ppl call warriors op when they are just good/viable. Warriors are so often trash, that ppl get used to it

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Posted 02 September 2013 - 02:11 PM

View PostPinka, on 02 September 2013 - 12:30 PM, said:

After seeing and playing around 150 different arena games around 1800- 2200 i managed to find 2 teams with a warrior. What is even more funny. Being a warrior myself. They were a breeze compared to all the feral, hunter, rets and dks you see flying around.

Stop living in a dream people. Warrs needed buffs. Which they got. And if warriors are viable again it only means. Mission accomplished.

If they are op. Which i highly doubt since dk and monk which are on live just superior warriors. Got the same equality of dmg buffs.

Also. Most ppl say the class they do not play = op. So what does op mean? Op = balanced?

Sorry. If you like to fight target dummies. Arenas is not your place.

Problem is that people start crying like a baby as soon as they can't win a class in a duel outside arena or even if they get outplayed by one inside arena. Which then has to mean = it's overpowered, I guess.

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Posted 02 September 2013 - 02:43 PM

View PostPinka, on 02 September 2013 - 12:30 PM, said:

After seeing and playing around 150 different arena games around 1800- 2200 i managed to find 2 teams with a warrior. What is even more funny. Being a warrior myself. They were a breeze compared to all the feral, hunter, rets and dks you see flying around.

Stop living in a dream people. Warrs needed buffs. Which they got. And if warriors are viable again it only means. Mission accomplished.

If they are op. Which i highly doubt since dk and monk which are on live just superior warriors. Got the same equality of dmg buffs.

Also. Most ppl say the class they do not play = op. So what does op mean? Op = balanced?

Sorry. If you like to fight target dummies. Arenas is not your place.

i've been wondering for like 3 expansions now, are you a girl irl?
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Posted 02 September 2013 - 02:50 PM

View PostMoshe, on 02 September 2013 - 12:50 PM, said:

It's not the first or last time ppl call warriors op when they are just good/viable. Warriors are so often trash, that ppl get used to it
Wouldn't call them often trash.

s1-4, 6-9, and 12 they were absolutely amazing. Its just we've been on a odd streak of being shit recently
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#67 Moshe

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Posted 02 September 2013 - 03:04 PM

View PostSpeedymart, on 02 September 2013 - 02:50 PM, said:

Wouldn't call them often trash.

s1-4, 6-9, and 12 they were absolutely amazing. Its just we've been on a odd streak of being shit recently

Fair enough, but I would still call it "often" counting the most recent times (mop + cata)

Edited by Moshe, 02 September 2013 - 06:38 PM.


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Posted 02 September 2013 - 03:13 PM

View PostMoshe, on 02 September 2013 - 12:50 PM, said:

It's not the first or last time ppl call warriors op when they are just good/viable. Warriors are so often trash, that ppl get used to it

I haven't played on the PTR yet, so I can't say for myself if warriors are OP, balanced or still in need of buffs, but I think that I can see where all the hate about warriors (and most other meeles) come from as soon as they are in a good spot.

When it comes to meeles overall, their way of scoring kills makes people react. Up until a certain level, people does not know enough about the game to properly peel, which makes melees cds incredibly scary (I am one of those people, so I'm not trying to be elitist or anything). This means that up to a certain rating, going into an arena and pop all cds off the bat is a successful strategy which takes a lot less skill to execute than it takes to counter. This (understandably) makes people react and ask for the nerf of said meele.

Therefore you will see a lot of middle to semi high rated people complain as soon as a meele is good, but when looking at ladders, they are not doing as well since the high rated teams knows how to peel them properly. Imo it is kind of a design flaw that I would like to see fixed somehow (I have no idea how) to the next expansion :)

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Posted 02 September 2013 - 04:44 PM

View Postottishen, on 02 September 2013 - 03:13 PM, said:

I haven't played on the PTR yet, so I can't say for myself if warriors are OP, balanced or still in need of buffs, but I think that I can see where all the hate about warriors (and most other meeles) come from as soon as they are in a good spot.

When it comes to meeles overall, their way of scoring kills makes people react. Up until a certain level, people does not know enough about the game to properly peel, which makes melees cds incredibly scary (I am one of those people, so I'm not trying to be elitist or anything). This means that up to a certain rating, going into an arena and pop all cds off the bat is a successful strategy which takes a lot less skill to execute than it takes to counter. This (understandably) makes people react and ask for the nerf of said meele.

Therefore you will see a lot of middle to semi high rated people complain as soon as a meele is good, but when looking at ladders, they are not doing as well since the high rated teams knows how to peel them properly. Imo it is kind of a design flaw that I would like to see fixed somehow (I have no idea how) to the next expansion :)

Yes only really good players knows how to spam poly :D

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Posted 02 September 2013 - 05:26 PM

View Postshunke, on 02 September 2013 - 04:44 PM, said:

Yes only really good players knows how to spam poly :D

because every team plays with a mage...

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Posted 02 September 2013 - 05:36 PM

View Postottishen, on 02 September 2013 - 05:26 PM, said:

because every team plays with a mage...

Yes only good players know how to spam poly/fear/treant/clone :P

I agree half of your post but it isnt a fucking miracle if 1550 players have found polymorph from their spellbook. And warrior damage is easily peeled. Maybe next time with Reflect/Massreflect/Intervene it might be quite stupid but..

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Posted 05 September 2013 - 12:44 AM

View PostBraindance, on 01 September 2013 - 11:54 PM, said:

And what did I reply? "Best melee? Perhaps"

I haven't whined for wars in 5.4 on a single instant.

Now please do me a favor and leave me and my brothers at peace.
Have you ever played on PTR bro?

Edited by Djandawg, 05 September 2013 - 12:45 AM.


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Posted 05 September 2013 - 01:15 AM

Best melee is a bit of a stretch. I really think a good Windwalker can beat out a good Warrior. I think they have gone a little unnoticed.

Edited by Pretalethal, 05 September 2013 - 01:17 AM.


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Posted 08 September 2013 - 09:22 AM

I heard that MS is going up to 215% wep dmg. I also heard that Holinka confirmed it. Thoughts?

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Posted 08 September 2013 - 09:33 AM

View PostAboikoS, on 08 September 2013 - 09:22 AM, said:

I heard that MS is going up to 215% wep dmg. I also heard that Holinka confirmed it. Thoughts?

Yey.

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Posted 08 September 2013 - 11:22 AM

View PostAboikoS, on 08 September 2013 - 09:22 AM, said:

I heard that MS is going up to 215% wep dmg. I also heard that Holinka confirmed it. Thoughts?

Woot!

Hope they don't nerf Deep Wounds because of this.

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Posted 08 September 2013 - 10:11 PM

View Postdarklift, on 08 September 2013 - 11:22 AM, said:

Woot!

Hope they don't nerf Deep Wounds because of this.

Don't worry, they have plenty of time (one week) to nerf warriors before new season starts.




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