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#1 Igor Čovran

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 06:05 PM

dont have disk space to try it myself...
i rly dont want to play fire since frost will be shit now....
so if anyone tested it has anything changed will it be viable to play arcane?
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Posted 29 August 2013 - 06:21 PM

View PostIgor Čovran, on 29 August 2013 - 06:05 PM, said:

dont have disk space to try it myself...
i rly dont want to play fire since frost will be shit now....
so if anyone tested it has anything changed will it be viable to play arcane?

how is frost bad?, its quite decent on ptr, id like to see ice lance nerf and dmg over to frostbolt...orcasting speed.

Just cause you cant FOTM reroll dont whine, and alter time with icicles is SICK!

#3 Deadscumlord

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 06:22 PM

View PostIgor Čovran, on 29 August 2013 - 06:05 PM, said:

dont have disk space to try it myself...
i rly dont want to play fire since frost will be shit now....
so if anyone tested it has anything changed will it be viable to play arcane?

Arcane is Viable every season.  it's the hardest hitting spec in the game. By far higher burst than anyone else can do.

It's just a very high skill cap spec, and is generally only played by the best Mages around that don't only play frost.

IE Jahmilli, Volkazar, Abn.

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 06:46 PM

View PostDeadscumlord, on 29 August 2013 - 06:22 PM, said:

Arcane is Viable every season.  it's the hardest hitting spec in the game. By far higher burst than anyone else can do.

It's just a very high skill cap spec, and is generally only played by the best Mages around that don't only play frost.

IE Jahmilli, Volkazar, Abn.
just like blood spec for dks

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 06:50 PM

could actually be fun to try out specced into ice flows with the glyph for arcane blast which applies slow when you hit with arcane blast. The run while cast should make it alot easier to get/keep your stacks, I'm definitely going to try it out.

But if you're just looking for a spec cause you think frost is gna be shit, I gotta tell you, it's not even close to shit on ptr. It sucks a little that frostbolt is just not worth the risk anymore, but I think they upped our overall burst during deep.

Like mentioned before alter timing 5stack icicles, letting them fire, then alter timing back and letting those fire too is insane dmg.

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 08:50 PM

how hard icicles hit for?
arcane is nice to play just what to do vs ferals? monks? its like they got almost 100% uptime cant rly cast
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Posted 29 August 2013 - 09:04 PM

View PostDeadscumlord, on 29 August 2013 - 06:22 PM, said:

It's just a very high skill cap spec

You have no idea what skill cap means, do you?
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#8 Psychz

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 05:36 AM

View PostForumz, on 29 August 2013 - 09:04 PM, said:

You have no idea what skill cap means, do you?
Seemed to be used right to me?

or

Are you saying that arcane does not have the highest skill cap out of any mage spec???

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 06:36 PM

View PostPsychz, on 10 September 2013 - 05:36 AM, said:

Seemed to be used right to me?

or

Are you saying that arcane does not have the highest skill cap out of any mage spec???

No it does not, I think you need to know what skillcap means before you say that.
Fire probably have the highest skillcap atm.

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 06:54 PM

View PostZerlog, on 29 August 2013 - 06:21 PM, said:

how is frost bad?, its quite decent on ptr, id like to see ice lance nerf and dmg over to frostbolt...orcasting speed.

Just cause you cant FOTM reroll dont whine, and alter time with icicles is SICK!
more lance nerfs?how much u want it to hit?20k

#11 Psychz

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Posted 16 September 2013 - 12:27 AM

View PostJamesDean, on 15 September 2013 - 06:36 PM, said:

No it does not, I think you need to know what skillcap means before you say that.
Fire probably have the highest skillcap atm.
So like I said the term "skill cap" was used right you just think he was wrong in saying that arcane has the highest skillcap....

Which is just your opinion.

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 02:14 AM

I tried arcane 5.4 and I'm a bit disappointed, there is a significant damage loss compared to 5.3, I'd say around 20%.

That's quite sad cause arcane is all about pulling out big numbers, If the spec is not able to do this anymore imo there is no point to spec into it.

I wasn't realizing that the new base resilience & pvp trinket set bonus would impact so much on damage.

Dunno anything about s14 gear scaling, hope it's better.

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Posted 25 September 2013 - 05:16 PM

View Postglonglon, on 22 September 2013 - 02:14 AM, said:

I tried arcane 5.4 and I'm a bit disappointed, there is a significant damage loss compared to 5.3, I'd say around 20%.

That's quite sad cause arcane is all about pulling out big numbers, If the spec is not able to do this anymore imo there is no point to spec into it.

I wasn't realizing that the new base resilience & pvp trinket set bonus would impact so much on damage.

Dunno anything about s14 gear scaling, hope it's better.

I dunno, I was playing arcane yesterday and had no trouble killing someone once I got it set up. 80-100k barrage half missles and 100-150ishk barrage, repeat after alter, I be seein' dead peoplez. Oh and if you can line that up with tailoring lolwtfsauce

#14 Karlottey

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 12:21 AM

Been playing arcane a lot now. Feel like a rogue in a team is a must for amazing peels and setups

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Posted 31 October 2013 - 08:27 AM

I'm not sure what would the best comps be atm for Arcane, been trying out WMD / WMS as arcane... but the warr im playing with doesn't really find out the playstyle difference compared to when i'm frost enjoyable (more waiting instead of going ham with lancelols). Would love to test out Arcane RMP though, sounds like fun, even though the opener once again is diminished (which is one of the strong points of rmps atm)

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 08:01 AM

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 07:50 AM

I was disgusted with the frost changes in 5.4 too, so I started playing arcane. The first thing I noticed that everything hits harder then in the other two specs because of the mastery, for example ice lances and living bomb ticks. If you stack mastery and put on mage armor the damage is very high, I'm often getting 100k ice lances in Bg's. A living bomb can tick for more then 40k.

You don't really have to cast arcane blast to get charges going, you can use instant spells like arcane explosion, fire blast, living bomb and ice lance to get missiles procs, then juke cast those to get charges.

Recently I noticed that mastery seems better then int in arcane spec, so I have stacked more mastery now.

All in all it's possible to put out a lot of pressure without casting, and build up charges at the same time. I'd like to see more mages try arcane, then we'll see if it's viable or not, and with which comps.

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 10:49 AM

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