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disc vs holy 5.4

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#1 Reflexlol

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 01:26 AM

Will holy still be #1 next season?

By changes I mean these few:

Divine Insight for Discipline Priests now has a 100% chance to activate its effect after using Penance

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  • Discipline, Holy: Now also has a chance to activate its effect on cast for these following spells; Penance, Circle of Healing, Prayer of Mending, and Prayer of Healing.

So what are your opinions on Holy vs Disc in 5.4? :priest:

#2 Udderly

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 04:17 AM

Still sticking Holy, keeping in mind that the FDCL buff helps Holy as well (we cast PoM on cd for the buff to serenity), grace stacks are not dispellable making it easier to spam purge a disc, Spirit shell took a hefty nerf, and lightwell glyph is now baseline allowing us another glyph slot.  I think they both have their strengths in diff comps, and just play what you enjoy

#3 Cobeliany

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 04:56 AM

Disc for life, moving penance is too much fun

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 06:03 AM

Holy Priest is mongoloid "instantcast" spec
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#5 Reflexlol

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 06:02 PM

View PostDoomed the Dog, on 29 August 2013 - 06:03 AM, said:

Holy Priest is mongoloid "instantcast" spec

Haha, Whilst I do agree and love Disc I just went back disc again and it feels awful. Very weak healing and even the shields are like 60k in PVP I dont see how it can outperform Holy at all in its current state.

Let alone the fact that Holy has hugely increased crit chance and a decent mastery.

I just don't like the whole WOW I CRIT HEAL IN DISC and it heals for the same amount and the Aegis just gets purged etc. Also the fact that you can't win the fear war against a Holy as they have chastise etc to setup fears or MC.

Maybe I just need to get used to it again.

TL;DR I just want disc to feel good again :confused:

#6 Djandawg

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 12:40 AM

Divine aegis is undispellable.  The problem next patch with the spec is, you are trained, your main spell doesn't work anymore due to the loss of grace buff protection and almost every comp has at least one purger. They purge your shield at first attempt almost always.

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 07:38 PM

Holy has the extra cc as well, chastise is way too good to pass up imo. Plus you can be offensive and have little to no mana cost for it with the different chakras. Disc and holy are both viable, they have different play styles. Disc is all about preventing dmg where as holy is about big heals.

#8 mezyo

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 08:01 PM

View PostDoomed the Dog, on 29 August 2013 - 06:03 AM, said:

Holy Priest is mongoloid "instantcast" spec

Says the holy paladin.
I got the joke bro don't worry.

People realise how powerful the light well is and are quick to kill it these days. They're both going to be strong but I wonder if they're going to sit under Rdruids.
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Posted 31 August 2013 - 12:23 AM

I'm really confused aswell, I've seen alot of holy priests on the PTR tho.
I guess people will stick to holy.

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 01:18 AM

Driveby penance is just way too much fun

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 12:44 PM

I honestly think it's comp dependent and preference.  Spirit shell is still very good, as is 'drive by penance' (love it Desu), so it's not like Disc has nothing.  

It's actually nice to see them competitive with one another IMHO

#12 Claynz

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 01:08 PM

Focused Will is a joke with new resil change on PTR :/

Edited by Claynz, 31 August 2013 - 01:10 PM.


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Posted 31 August 2013 - 01:21 PM

nerf focused will to 20% and defensive stance to 20% thank you holinka

#14 Reflexlol

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Posted 01 September 2013 - 10:10 AM

Well i'm excited to play both in 5.4 and will definitely try the new Divine insight on both Disc and Holy. But yeah they both seem competitive at the moment which is definitely a good thing.

Seems like with the new undispellable set bonus and Grace that Disc may find it hard against heavy dispel teams though :(

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Posted 01 September 2013 - 10:51 AM

View PostMirionx, on 31 August 2013 - 01:21 PM, said:

nerf focused will to 20% and defensive stance to 20% thank you holinka

blood presence too plox, don't care if dks die to wizards, hitting a death king in blood presence as a melee makes me want to bang my head against a solid steel pole
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Posted 01 September 2013 - 03:04 PM

I'll play whichever is weakest of the two specs. I played Holy when it was 'meh' and I'll probably start playing Disc again if Holy overtakes it. As pointed out earlier, Penance while running is tons of fun.
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Posted 03 September 2013 - 05:18 PM

I think holy will still be dominant over disc.

The buffs we get will be overshadowed by the nerfs on dispel protection (both grace and holy spark) and rapture wich will hurt both our shields and our mana management. Also the buffs will affect holy too and there is a minor buff to feathers wich is better for holy.
Btw I'm not even sure about those buffs.. Divine Aegis was fine as it was and I doubt I will switch for insta Flash as mindbender gets some buff too.
Ofc disc will have its place I just doubt it could overcome holy.

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 12:02 AM

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I just don't like the whole WOW I CRIT HEAL IN DISC and it heals for the same amount and the Aegis just gets purged etc

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and it heals for the same amount and the Aegis just gets purged etc

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Aegis just gets purged
Would like hear also did u rerolled just for feral 2s friend

#19 mackazar

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 12:08 AM

Holy is for priests who can't play disc. /thread

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 01:03 AM

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