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#1 mexxer

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 01:29 PM

Dear Aj.
I just feel that rogues got nothing, just give them step @ 15 sec & step thro roots, and all will be fine.

Its not even fun to play the class anymore & they wont be fine next patch

M4L

Edited by mexxer, 08 August 2013 - 01:34 PM.


#2 AcerMVP

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 01:37 PM

Go play a fucking warrior.

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 01:39 PM

View Postmexxer, on 08 August 2013 - 01:29 PM, said:

Dear Aj.
I just feel that rogues got nothing, just give them step @ 15 sec & step thro roots, and all will be fine.

Its not even fun to play the class anymore & they wont be fine next patch

M4L

Don’t even know why are you asking this to AJ... They are not the developers you know!

#4 mexxer

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 01:41 PM

Naah cba that class is shit aswell not that shitty as rogues but shitty and not fun shitty

#5 mexxer

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 01:44 PM

View PostValzent, on 08 August 2013 - 01:39 PM, said:

Don’t even know why are you asking this to AJ... They are not the developers you know!
Blizzard is watching you son.

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 01:50 PM

View Postmexxer, on 08 August 2013 - 01:44 PM, said:

Blizzard is watching you son.
I hope Blizzard actually watched more of AJ forums and less of their owns, the game would be at least a little more balanced.

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 02:25 PM

View PostValzent, on 08 August 2013 - 01:50 PM, said:

I hope Blizzard actually watched more of AJ forums and less of their owns, the game would be at least a little more balanced.
lol
Zaka pa te če naja morš te ne, te pa če pa te ne čuj, kaj te to te je, ne?

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 03:55 PM

If you don't like the way rogues are then leave a constructive message on the forums somewhere explaining how you feel and why you feel that way. Then just cancel your sub or play another class you do find fun in the mean time. That's about all you can do.

#9 Hiddenstalke

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 04:02 PM

Play Monk instead.
www.twitch.tv/hiddenstalkeeu

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 04:08 PM

Well, i took break for 2 months from game, really needed it and here what i see atm after i came back:

- hybrids deal too much dmg for the offhealing and utility they have; i understand devs don't want hybrid tax but currently it seems if you wanna play dps you should be playing hybrid; imo, if you wanna dps as hybrid you should say good bye to stupid amount of offhealing and utility

- blizz added too many Ccs in game, buffed moblity of many classes as well as adding CC breakers (nimble brew for example), putting dispell on 8 sec CD and adding retarded amount of AoE and long lasting DoTs, all huge nerfs to rogues actually considering how rogues survival and moblity all tied to stealth and CCs; so simply put it looks like this from rogue pov:

you CC someone? they will break out of it and CC you and kill you and nothing you can do about it

you try to stay on hit box? jk everyone has same snares + some ridicilous moblity while we still have to rely on old 24 sec shs that doesn't work while rooted

we are pure dps, but we often do less dmg than hybrids while not having their off heals and utility + our dmg is very conditional while other classes sustain is still pretty good

do rogues suck? no
are rogues weak? compared to other classes certanly
should they buff rogues? no, it would just break game even more
what should they do?

1) reduce amount of CCs in game (wouldn't break pve at all)
2) nerf CC breakers (wouldn't break pve at all)
3) reward casters for casting and punish them for spamming instants (wouldn't break pve at all)
4) put DR on procs (would affect pve but see point 8)
5) nerf hybrid uttility/offhealing (would add varierity to raids actually instead of 2 tanks, 3 healers and rest boomkins)
6) nerf moblity of certain classes (monks, druids, wars etc.) so the casters can actually get breezing room (wouldn't break pve at all)
7) nerf interrupts (to work with point 3) (wouldn't break pve at all)
8) buff sustain from classes that rely on procs CDs and nerf dps CDs (actually buff to pve in long run)

just generall idea, probably could add more

but back to OP: entire expenasion was like that, you were better off playing any class but rogues; idk why devs have such hate on class this xpac and i truly believe they do after reading what Holinka wrote, he is really bitter about class for w/e reason
shut up pvp guy

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 04:54 PM

View PostValzent, on 08 August 2013 - 01:50 PM, said:

I hope Blizzard actually watched more of AJ forums and less of their owns, the game would be at least a little more balanced.

Jk Convict

View PostReirei, on 08 August 2013 - 04:08 PM, said:

Well, i took break for 2 months from game, really needed it and here what i see atm after i came back:

- hybrids deal too much dmg for the offhealing and utility they have; i understand devs don't want hybrid tax but currently it seems if you wanna play dps you should be playing hybrid; imo, if you wanna dps as hybrid you should say good bye to stupid amount of offhealing and utility

- blizz added too many Ccs in game, buffed moblity of many classes as well as adding CC breakers (nimble brew for example), putting dispell on 8 sec CD and adding retarded amount of AoE and long lasting DoTs, all huge nerfs to rogues actually considering how rogues survival and moblity all tied to stealth and CCs; so simply put it looks like this from rogue pov:

you CC someone? they will break out of it and CC you and kill you and nothing you can do about it

you try to stay on hit box? jk everyone has same snares + some ridicilous moblity while we still have to rely on old 24 sec shs that doesn't work while rooted

we are pure dps, but we often do less dmg than hybrids while not having their off heals and utility + our dmg is very conditional while other classes sustain is still pretty good

do rogues suck? no
are rogues weak? compared to other classes certanly
should they buff rogues? no, it would just break game even more
what should they do?

1) reduce amount of CCs in game (wouldn't break pve at all)
2) nerf CC breakers (wouldn't break pve at all)
3) reward casters for casting and punish them for spamming instants (wouldn't break pve at all)
4) put DR on procs (would affect pve but see point 8)
5) nerf hybrid uttility/offhealing (would add varierity to raids actually instead of 2 tanks, 3 healers and rest boomkins)
6) nerf moblity of certain classes (monks, druids, wars etc.) so the casters can actually get breezing room (wouldn't break pve at all)
7) nerf interrupts (to work with point 3) (wouldn't break pve at all)
8) buff sustain from classes that rely on procs CDs and nerf dps CDs (actually buff to pve in long run)

just generall idea, probably could add more

but back to OP: entire expenasion was like that, you were better off playing any class but rogues; idk why devs have such hate on class this xpac and i truly believe they do after reading what Holinka wrote, he is really bitter about class for w/e reason

TLDR: no
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Posted 08 August 2013 - 06:25 PM

View PostAcerMVP, on 08 August 2013 - 01:37 PM, said:

Go play a fucking warrior.

Or maybe feral & ret

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 06:59 PM

ROGUES WONT BE PLAYED NEXT PATCH?, HAVE YOU EVEN BEEN ON PTR? I REPEAT HAVE YOU EVEN BEEN ON PTR?

Killing spree first global KILL?


PS how do you think mages feel when they meet a Feral and cant peel him? or even stop him..

Edited by Zerlog, 08 August 2013 - 07:00 PM.


#14 Tsx

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 07:06 PM

4got the dmg buff?rogues will be fine.

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 07:09 PM

View PostZerlog, on 08 August 2013 - 06:59 PM, said:

ROGUES WONT BE PLAYED NEXT PATCH?, HAVE YOU EVEN BEEN ON PTR? I REPEAT HAVE YOU EVEN BEEN ON PTR?

Killing spree first global KILL?


PS how do you think mages feel when they meet a Feral and cant peel him? or even stop him..

I still can't ever see combat being a good-tier rogue spec for arena's in MoP. Just how its designed (around a one-trick-pony gimmick ability) is dumb.

#16 RankOneFeralJK

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 07:35 PM

^^ I concur doctor

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 07:51 PM

View PostZerlog, on 08 August 2013 - 06:59 PM, said:

ROGUES WONT BE PLAYED NEXT PATCH?, HAVE YOU EVEN BEEN ON PTR? I REPEAT HAVE YOU EVEN BEEN ON PTR?

Killing spree first global KILL?


PS how do you think mages feel when they meet a Feral and cant peel him? or even stop him..
If you face people with an IQ higher than negative 5 killingspree first global wont kill them.

#18 Dethz

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 08:00 PM

kill urself rogues are at a good spot next patch

#19 Stealthsultn

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 08:14 PM

This is not constructive. Off to the blizz forums with you!

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 08:41 PM

my worry is that rogue cds will be too strong. with dance as of right now i can 100-0 before the dance ends with pvp gear, on ptr. I feel like they might need to nerf some of the dmg modifiers you can have when you are using huge dmg cooldowns, this goes for all classes not just rogue.

Edited by insanepimpmobile, 08 August 2013 - 08:42 PM.






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