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#1 Razorx

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 12:33 AM

Didn't see a thread but this is taken from MMO champ:

Old Mastery reverted this added:

Mastery: Frostburn When you damage enemies with Frostbolt, Frostfire Bolt, and your Water Elemental's Waterbolt, 12% of the damage done is stored as an Icicle with you, for 15 sec. Up to 5 Icicles can be stored at once. Casting Ice Lance causes any Icicles to begin launching at the target. Mage - Frost Spec.

Ice Lance Deals [ 260 + 25% Deals [ 336 + 32.3% of Spell Power ] Frost damage to an enemy target. Ice Lance damage is quadrupled against frozen targets. 1% of Base Mana. 40 yd range. Instant.

Ice lance damage buff to compensate for old mastery removed.
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Posted 18 July 2013 - 12:34 AM

Pros:

Promotes casting again since frost bolt will give the new mastery icicles.

Current concerns:

- Icicles Breaking CC

- May be too reliant on casting, could cause problems with FB been a long cast time and so many interrupts in the game

Thoughts?
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Posted 18 July 2013 - 12:35 AM

I'm assuming the icicle damage is increased with more mastery?

or is it the # of icicles?
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Posted 18 July 2013 - 12:36 AM

Promotes casting again since frost bolt will give the new mastery icicles.

Current concerns:

- Icicles Breaking CC

- May be too reliant on casting, could cause problems with FB been a long cast time and so many interrupts in the game

Thoughts?


o shit mages might have to cast besides spamming poly back to back
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Posted 18 July 2013 - 12:38 AM

I'm assuming the icicle damage is increased with more mastery?

or is it the # of icicles?


Increased based on mastery i believe, cant crit.
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Posted 18 July 2013 - 12:40 AM

wtf is icicle? tibia spell?
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Posted 18 July 2013 - 12:42 AM

o shit mages might have to cast besides spamming poly back to back

because poly is instant and u dont cast it right?
according the mastery , i rly dont get what it does, can any1 explain to me?If ur saying it promotes casting , me like.
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Posted 18 July 2013 - 12:45 AM

Ok nvm i get it now.It can be rly good if well coordinated.For example, u want to hardswap on smthing, u spam frostbolt on another target until u have 5 of these ''things'',then u hard swap with orb+deep+spam lance and these ''things'' launch on target.
The only thing i dont like is the frostbolt dmg not affected by frozen targets but i guess i can deal with it.
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Posted 18 July 2013 - 12:45 AM

The way it will work is every time you cast FB FFB or your water ele does a bolt you will gain a 'Icicle' (the damage of the icicle stored will be based on the % dmg done by your FFB FB or water ele) you can store up to 5 at a time. When you next use ice lance all the shards you have stored will be used.

Promotes casting because the more you bolt the more icicles you have.
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Posted 18 July 2013 - 12:46 AM

Well, proc fishing is more and more promoted because of Frostfire bolt tbh.. Also, we now have ramp-up time instead of on-demand damage? I'm confused where they want to take mages into really..
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Posted 18 July 2013 - 12:48 AM

Hm depends on the way you look at it, storing big crit icicles will be good on demand damage

Takes a little ramp up time, but i guess it won't be that long and you won't always need to have 5 icicles.
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Posted 18 July 2013 - 12:50 AM

Hm depends on the way you look at it, storing big crit icicles will be good on demand damage


Which has a ramp-up time. Okay, we can't pop out of Invis and unleash hell on someone, but.. Well it's better than the old one I guess? Have to see the numbers on PTR later this week.

Also, what if my pet hits couple times and then there's 2 FFB and one Frostfire Bolt on Icicle store? Potentially best damage would come out of 5 FFB stacks. Would this just reduce my potential dmg and make it bit rng'ish?

I guess just have to go and take a look..
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Posted 18 July 2013 - 12:53 AM

My guess is that if you store and extra icicle then the oldest one you store gets shot out so you don't waste them, would make sense for PVE.
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Posted 18 July 2013 - 12:55 AM

Won't this change make it better to always have water ele on passive so you don't overlap your good icicle stacks?
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Posted 18 July 2013 - 12:56 AM

Won't this change make it better to always have water ele on passive so you don't overlap your good icicle stacks?


Yea most likely
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Posted 18 July 2013 - 01:02 AM

wtf is icicle? tibia spell?


It's actually a rune. lol
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Posted 18 July 2013 - 01:13 AM

Can you alter time this ? :3
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Posted 18 July 2013 - 01:33 AM

Don't forget that the 12% will scale with mastery, so it will be 40%+ i'm assuming.
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Posted 18 July 2013 - 01:34 AM

TY LORD i was gonna cut myself if that last mastery change went live. Now its just like a shadowpriest gota wait for orbs to burst im fine with this.
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Posted 18 July 2013 - 01:35 AM

I understand the spell but I didn't understand what will mastery stat will give to this ability? It says %12 of the damage done of the fb,ffb etc. and can stack up to 5 times. I cannot see how will mastery affect the spell?

nvm, I think L92's explanation is correct.
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