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#1 Hoodzx

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Posted 15 July 2013 - 08:03 AM

All is in the title, i'd like to know what are the current best comps, how is doing disc priest, hunter, ele shaman, dk, and warrior :D

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#2 Deonto

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Posted 15 July 2013 - 09:34 AM

Impossible to know due to the state of pve trinkets on the ptr.
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Posted 15 July 2013 - 11:11 AM

They gave Elemental Shamans a pet who does Tickle Me Elmo damage and Casts Polymorph.

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Posted 16 July 2013 - 09:33 AM

warrior seems alright with the new changes. ham off gcd is fun. i havent cloned or polyd with reflect up yet, and walling and not losing damage is amazing. but like deonto said its a little too early to tell with the pve trinkets. was healing retwar in 3s against lsd and the ele randomly shot the warrior to 20% hp from full, checked combat log and it didn't say anything according to the warr. disc is also amazing still on ptr, nothing really ever dies unless its 100-0 by ele/lock combos if you have a disc healer

#5 Hoodzx

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Posted 16 July 2013 - 09:46 AM

I only don't know one thing, will you still switch your weapon to 1H+Shield to reduce damage sometimes ? Even if you don't have shieldwall for example.

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Posted 16 July 2013 - 09:56 AM

View PostHoodzx, on 16 July 2013 - 09:46 AM, said:

I only don't know one thing, will you still switch your weapon to 1H+Shield to reduce damage sometimes ? Even if you don't have shieldwall for example.
You'd just lose pressure if you did. The only time I could see it being worth it is against dk or hunter teams, to reduce damage since they don't have armor pen abilities. against wizards rets, warriors, and rogues it doesnt seem to help much. just better to sit dstance and try to keep pressure up from what i noticed. guess if you really wanted to, try to predict the swap onto you go dstance sword and board if you dont have trinket.

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Posted 16 July 2013 - 09:58 AM

1h+shield is entirely worthless if you are not using wall or reflect

View PostZerstiren, on 14 August 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

If you haven't +repped this guy, you are part of the problem.

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

#8 amirdaheat

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Posted 16 July 2013 - 11:04 AM

View PostBraindance, on 16 July 2013 - 09:58 AM, said:

1h+shield is entirely worthless if you are not using wall or reflect


unless you want that extra armor, jk armor means jack shit
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Posted 16 July 2013 - 11:22 AM

View Postamirdaheat, on 16 July 2013 - 11:04 AM, said:

unless you want that extra armor, jk armor means jack shit
It does, but vs rogues and wars only, and even then you lose way too much damage for a tiny reduction. Not worth the trade-off

View PostZerstiren, on 14 August 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

If you haven't +repped this guy, you are part of the problem.

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

#10 Rileyyz

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Posted 16 July 2013 - 11:39 AM

View PostBraindance, on 16 July 2013 - 11:22 AM, said:

It does, but vs rogues and wars only
Doesn't it affect things like necro strike? Sorta figure it would, feels like necros stack higher and faster on my priest than on my warrior.

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Posted 16 July 2013 - 11:42 AM

View PostRileyyz, on 16 July 2013 - 11:39 AM, said:

Doesn't it affect things like necro strike? Sorta figure it would, feels like necros stack higher and faster on my priest than on my warrior.
No - nothing affects necrotic strike apart from res. That's why it's the best pvp dps ability in the game because it's not affected by anything else

View PostZerstiren, on 14 August 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

If you haven't +repped this guy, you are part of the problem.

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

#12 Rileyyz

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Posted 16 July 2013 - 11:44 AM

no wonder it feels like dks shit in my cereal when i queue into em

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Posted 16 July 2013 - 01:30 PM

Shield play is gone for sure almost 100%.   Better to sit d-stance and just try to out-pressure.  I would still have the macro for weapon swap for enemy opener vs rogue comp but it may not even be necessary.  Besides, we have a harder time when opponent team go after our partner, I like it when they train me, it's a sure win in that case almost always.

#14 Hoodzx

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Posted 16 July 2013 - 01:38 PM

View Postirubuwrongtime, on 16 July 2013 - 01:30 PM, said:

Shield play is gone for sure almost 100%.   Better to sit d-stance and just try to out-pressure.  I would still have the macro for weapon swap for enemy opener vs rogue comp but it may not even be necessary.  Besides, we have a harder time when opponent team go after our partner, I like it when they train me, it's a sure win in that case almost always.

Thats exactly what i ment thanks for the infos.

I just hope that they arent going to remove shields like in S14 or S15 because people arent using them (not healers one, just dps ones), because they killed our FC spots in RBGs, now they're removing the utility ^^
Not saying it's a bad thing because its a good QoL change, but the RBG change was one of the stupidest ever (no spots for warriors now).

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Posted 16 July 2013 - 01:44 PM

View PostHoodzx, on 16 July 2013 - 01:38 PM, said:



Thats exactly what i ment thanks for the infos.

I just hope that they arent going to remove shields like in S14 or S15 because people arent using them (not healers one, just dps ones), because they killed our FC spots in RBGs, now they're removing the utility ^^
Not saying it's a bad thing because its a good QoL change, but the RBG change was one of the stupidest ever (no spots for warriors now).
I'm hoping fury or even arms might actually have a spot in rbg with bladestorm and bloodbath change.  Maybe I'm too optimistic, lol.

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Posted 16 July 2013 - 01:56 PM

View Postirubuwrongtime, on 16 July 2013 - 01:44 PM, said:

I'm hoping fury or even arms might actually have a spot in rbg with bladestorm and bloodbath change.  Maybe I'm too optimistic, lol.
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#17 Hoodzx

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Posted 16 July 2013 - 02:07 PM

View Postirubuwrongtime, on 16 July 2013 - 01:44 PM, said:

I'm hoping fury or even arms might actually have a spot in rbg with bladestorm and bloodbath change.  Maybe I'm too optimistic, lol.

Well with the 1min cooldown + bigger damage it could be viable, only problem is if people prefer to stack DKs / Warlocks / Boomys lol ;)
Our position in defense at gilneas/Eots/arathi was already in danger when we were in prot because of Hunters for example :P

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Posted 16 July 2013 - 03:01 PM

Pallys are on the right track Id say still need something against fears :(

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 07:04 PM

View PostRileyyz, on 16 July 2013 - 09:33 AM, said:

warrior seems alright with the new changes. ham off gcd is fun. i havent cloned or polyd with reflect up yet, and walling and not losing damage is amazing. but like deonto said its a little too early to tell with the pve trinkets. was healing retwar in 3s against lsd and the ele randomly shot the warrior to 20% hp from full, checked combat log and it didn't say anything according to the warr. disc is also amazing still on ptr, nothing really ever dies unless its 100-0 by ele/lock combos if you have a disc healer

If you mean the little "delay" in the game that makes it possible to eg. cast grounding as the CC lands on you, so grounding is up but you are CC'ed, blind mage on his deep freeze, bomb as you get deeped, cast a heal on a target that is in combat and drink afterwards, be polyed with reflect up, gouge when someone stuns you, etc, etc, etc. Then you should probably get used to it, because it has ALWAYS been in the game, and it probably will always be. For dumb players (like you) that don't understand it even though it has happened 100 of times will stay dumb and bad (or worse than what they could have been), and clever players will learn how it works and use it to their advantage. Most players consider it a technical error, and go in whine mode. But since it has always been here, it's a part of the game and it's your fault for not knowing this.

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 07:39 PM

View PostIbrozz, on 16 July 2013 - 03:01 PM, said:

Pallys are on the right track Id say still need something against fears :(

Yeah we could really use the old unyielding faith from wrath that reduced the duration of fears by 20% :/ and our own fear to be 10 yards further range and it would be amazing with the new sac glyph & AM glyph(maybe remove the part where AM clears silences)




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