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#21 Thaya

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Posted 14 July 2013 - 02:07 AM

Doing 1 million+ damage in a global isn't that uncommon in PvE, and Stormblast is only usable during the shaman cooldowns (Ascendance). It will be 250k past reductions on players.

Are you saying your 4 elemental shamans can't do 250k damage in a global? Please...
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Posted 14 July 2013 - 01:33 PM

View PostKruschpak, on 13 July 2013 - 02:12 PM, said:

using a 2hander

btw 1,5 million stormblast

now add ap buff and skull banner + 39% pvp power in that gear, you can easily oneshot someone through painsup

You're forgetting about resil.
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Posted 14 July 2013 - 01:51 PM

View Postfant0m8, on 14 July 2013 - 01:33 PM, said:

You're forgetting about resil.

ok so 1,500,500*1,39 = 2,085,695 *0,3 = 625,709 on 70% resil

yes my fault, you could only oneshot ~370k hp through painsup if you dont count the melee hit and other dmg increase buffs


View PostThaya, on 14 July 2013 - 02:07 AM, said:

Are you saying your 4 elemental shamans can't do 250k damage in a global? Please...

Stormblast =! elemental shamans and its more than 250k, currently my quadruple stormblast oneshot does ~1,2M on zero resilience including one auto hit and stuff like lightning shield proccs, windfury, after all its enough to oneshot ~420k players

just want to point out how two trinkets make that ability from 230k noncrit / 460k crit (with 2h) to 1,5M crit

Edited by Kruschpak, 14 July 2013 - 02:05 PM.


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Posted 14 July 2013 - 02:35 PM

View PostMoshe, on 12 July 2013 - 03:40 PM, said:

Tested this trinket on the ptr yesterday: http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=102298

As a warrior, it reduces the cd of your shockwave to 28,8sec. If you hit three targets with it you get your next shockwave cd reduced to 8,8sec ;D

Pretty hilarious and sad at the same time imo. Good thing is that im in a steady raiding guild capable of hc content ^^

edit: typos

Didn't think it reduced shockwave cd as a warrior?

Rallying Cry
Shattering Throw
Recklessness
Shield Wall

It does however give dance a 36 sec cd.

#25 Yoloswaggae

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Posted 14 July 2013 - 03:48 PM

View Postcharles34534534, on 14 July 2013 - 02:35 PM, said:

Didn't think it reduced shockwave cd as a warrior?

Rallying Cry
Shattering Throw
Recklessness
Shield Wall

It does however give dance a 36 sec cd.

Probably not updated, it works for shockwave like he said.
And how is 1,5 mill crit amazing on dummy? With my warrior i easily spamm 3mill+ crits into dummys with executes and droar hits for above 3 mill aswell and that with just pvp gear no amazing pve gear stuff except for trinkets..

Edit: Laughed when Thunder Clap critted above 800k.....

Edited by Yoloswaggae, 14 July 2013 - 03:50 PM.

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Posted 14 July 2013 - 04:24 PM

There's no way those trinkets are balanced for PvE either, surely?
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Posted 18 July 2013 - 03:04 PM

holinka just made a satifying tweet about pve trinkets (talking about the 84% crit damage thing)

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@DerbyyWoW @Deontto It will be something like 5% extra crit damage in PvP.

hope that goes live

Edited by Kruschpak, 18 July 2013 - 03:05 PM.


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Posted 18 July 2013 - 03:09 PM

View PostKruschpak, on 18 July 2013 - 03:04 PM, said:

holinka just made a satifying tweet about pve trinkets (talking about the 84% crit damage thing)

Holinka@holinka  29m
@DerbyyWoW @Deontto It will be something like 5% extra crit damage in PvP.

hope that goes live

That's good news, thank you!
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Posted 18 July 2013 - 04:50 PM

View PostKruschpak, on 18 July 2013 - 03:04 PM, said:

holinka just made a satifying tweet about pve trinkets (talking about the 84% crit damage thing)

Holinka@holinka  29m
@DerbyyWoW @Deontto It will be something like 5% extra crit damage in PvP.

hope that goes live

Thank god. Hopefully the cooldown reduction trinkets will face a similar fate.

Full PVP gear is looking like it will definitely be BiS next season if Holinka is being truthful. That makes me so happy, I won't have to touch PVE.
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Posted 18 July 2013 - 04:54 PM

they should address all the trinkets not just that one

but it's nice that they are ACTUALLY doing something about them before the patch goes live

I just want to test shit on the ptr without randomly dying to pve trinkets

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 06:38 PM

View PostKruschpak, on 14 July 2013 - 01:51 PM, said:

ok so 1,500,500*1,39 = 2,085,695 *0,3 = 625,709 on 70% resil

yes my fault, you could only oneshot ~370k hp through painsup if you dont count the melee hit and other dmg increase buffs




Stormblast =! elemental shamans and its more than 250k, currently my quadruple stormblast oneshot does ~1,2M on zero resilience including one auto hit and stuff like lightning shield proccs, windfury, after all its enough to oneshot ~420k players

just want to point out how two trinkets make that ability from 230k noncrit / 460k crit (with 2h) to 1,5M crit
I remember you for your ele multiboxing, played on Emberstorm for a while.

Wasn't saying the trinkets aren't overpowered, just that it was a vast overexaggeration. But anyway, this won't make it to live.
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Posted 19 July 2013 - 01:46 AM

View PostThaya, on 18 July 2013 - 06:38 PM, said:

I remember you for your ele multiboxing, played on Emberstorm for a while.


switched to enhance because stupid "1 dispell all flameshocks gone" destroyed ele boxing ;(

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 01:34 AM


  • @holinka when are the trinkets gonna get disabled in arena or nerfed so PvP in 5.4 can properly be tested?    
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  • Posted ImageHolinka@holinka1h
    .@MikeAltamirano We're working on it right now for the PTR. T16 PvE trinkets should be nerfed in time for the arena event tomorrow.


Edited by Xeek, 20 July 2013 - 01:34 AM.


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Posted 20 July 2013 - 09:52 AM

nice :)

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 12:04 AM

View PostXeek, on 20 July 2013 - 01:34 AM, said:


  • @holinka when are the trinkets gonna get disabled in arena or nerfed so PvP in 5.4 can properly be tested?
    Öffnen


  • Posted ImageHolinka@holinka1h
    .@MikeAltamirano We're working on it right now for the PTR. T16 PvE trinkets should be nerfed in time for the arena event tomorrow.


So did they get nerfed? Can someone on PTR check it out and see what the new effects in PVP are?
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Posted 19 September 2013 - 10:39 PM

Any1 got any of those 5.4 trinkets & did arena ? I am curious if they fixed those trinkets for arena or not




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