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#1 Crawthz

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 03:12 PM

Aight, first of all I want to say that any PvE trinket in the past has never been this much broken as 5.4 PTR PvE trinkets are in Arena. Cunning, Vial, whatever really has no say in the new proc trinket.

I did 200k FFB into 2x 100k Ice Lance with 200k Frostbomb and 150k Frostbolt in arena today on PTR..
All thanks to the new proc that increases my Critdmg, Mastery and Haste by 50'ish percent.. And it has quite decent proc rate aswell, it always procced when I threw out my first Frozen Orb.. Oh and those numbers are on a Discpriest with Focused Will stacked.

I also killed Discpriest with Focused Will and Painsup up with this trinket proc'd.

On another arena, my Discpriest friends trinket proc'd and he threw me 270k Power Word: Shield..

My Eleshamans trinket proc'd and he casted Lavaburst into NS Eleblast which 100-0'd without trouble, without mastery proc and he wasn't playing Echo even..

I got hit for 120k Glaivetoss aswell when Hunter proc'd his trinket.

Go see it yourself, you can get the PvE trinkets on Niuzao Temple (or whatever the place with Shado-Pan Quartermaster is), there's PvE vendor there which sells those trinkets.
The numbers I've given here is just merely random situations in arena, but if I'd do 100 games in a row, all of them would have massive effect by this trinket's proc alone.

This trinket can not go live in any circumstance.
http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=102293 - The trinket

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I had that stacking Int trinket on test aswell, if both of these trinkets proc at the same time, I need about 4-6 globals to finish the whole enemy team.
I had 62k Spellpower, 100% Mastery, 70%'ish Haste and well over Mages crit breakpoint aswell.. Only way to survive the burst is to Block or Bubble, no matter what defensive cooldowns you have, it wont save you.

Just to give you estimate of the damage incoming. This is into a Defstance warrior.
http://i.imgur.com/7TubLao.jpg

Trinket gets reduced from 84% to 57'ish percent in arena. Oh and remember, Frostbomb, Frostbolt and Frozen Orb is not affected by Mastery in 5.4 for Frostmages..

Edited by Crawthz, 12 July 2013 - 03:21 PM.

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#2 stalebagel

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 03:25 PM

Next stampede/shado-pan gimmick here boys, and considering blizzard's historically thorough and timely approach to PvE items adversely affecting PvP it will only take three to four weeks into S14 to fix this.

Edited by stalebagel, 12 July 2013 - 03:26 PM.


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Posted 12 July 2013 - 03:40 PM

Tested this trinket on the ptr yesterday: http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=102298

As a warrior, it reduces the cd of your shockwave to 28,8sec. If you hit three targets with it you get your next shockwave cd reduced to 8,8sec ;D

Pretty hilarious and sad at the same time imo. Good thing is that im in a steady raiding guild capable of hc content ^^

edit: typos

Edited by Moshe, 12 July 2013 - 07:13 PM.


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Posted 12 July 2013 - 04:17 PM

View PostMoshe, on 12 July 2013 - 03:40 PM, said:

Tested this trinket on the prt yesterday: http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=102298

As a warrior, it reduces the cd of your shockwave to 28,8sec. If you hit three targets with it you get your next shockwave cd reduced to 8,8sec ;D

Pretty hilarious and sad at the same time imo. Good thing is that im in a steady raiding guild capable of hc content ^^

WTF... Just lol at this bullshit.

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 04:27 PM

Nice post Crawthz, sums it up pretty much wat i was afraid of all this time.
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Posted 12 July 2013 - 04:54 PM

NVM: MY JAW DROPPED WTF

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 05:29 PM

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#8 Claynz

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 05:54 PM

AJ *sigh*

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 05:59 PM

View PostClaynz, on 12 July 2013 - 05:54 PM, said:

AJ *sigh*
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This is a valid concern since the numbers he posted are after downscaling.
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Posted 12 July 2013 - 06:26 PM

I did a few bg's using the agil trinks... didn't really feel like they were crazy strong. i'dd rather have the set bonus 5% resil/power over them... might be different for rogues/ferals though since the "meaningful cd's" part for ww's arent that great of cd's anyway, not compared to the rogue cd list at least.

#11 Crawthz

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 06:30 PM

Just for comparison, my Ice Lance does 30-35k into Deep to 100k+ FoF proc when this specific trinket procs. It is ABSURD how much it increases damage. I strongly suggest to go out there and test it!
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Posted 12 July 2013 - 08:00 PM

View PostMoshe, on 12 July 2013 - 03:40 PM, said:

Pretty hilarious and sad at the same time imo. Good thing is that im in a steady raiding guild capable of hc content ^^

No need to worry about that. It gets scaled down to ilvl512, so anyone capable of AFKing in LFR will be able to get the maximum effect out of these trinkets. Fun!
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Posted 12 July 2013 - 10:47 PM


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There will be some solution for the PvE trinkets and PvE set bonuses in PvP.



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Posted 12 July 2013 - 10:54 PM

PTR arenas are actually broken, It's just like shado-pan trinkets, as long as you just use cd's when trinkets procced its a guaranteed kill.

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Posted 13 July 2013 - 12:36 AM

Ok this isnt funny anymore, 1,1 million stormblast, two trinkets actually gave me more firepower than the combined firepower of my quad box shaman team, well done

Edited by Kruschpak, 13 July 2013 - 12:37 AM.


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Posted 13 July 2013 - 06:25 AM

View PostKruschpak, on 13 July 2013 - 12:36 AM, said:

Ok this isnt funny anymore, 1,1 million stormblast, two trinkets actually gave me more firepower than the combined firepower of my quad box shaman team, well done

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Posted 13 July 2013 - 01:14 PM

View PostKruschpak, on 13 July 2013 - 12:36 AM, said:

Ok this isnt funny anymore, 1,1 million stormblast, two trinkets actually gave me more firepower than the combined firepower of my quad box shaman team, well done

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Posted 13 July 2013 - 01:32 PM

View PostKruschpak, on 13 July 2013 - 12:36 AM, said:

Ok this isnt funny anymore, 1,1 million stormblast, two trinkets actually gave me more firepower than the combined firepower of my quad box shaman team, well done

are you using a 2hander here? or missing a wep buff
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Posted 13 July 2013 - 01:43 PM

View PostClaynz, on 12 July 2013 - 05:54 PM, said:

AJ *sigh*
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Posted 13 July 2013 - 02:12 PM

View PostMarshmellow, on 13 July 2013 - 01:32 PM, said:

are you using a 2hander here? or missing a wep buff

using a 2hander

btw 1,5 million stormblast

now add ap buff and skull banner + 39% pvp power in that gear, you can easily oneshot someone through painsup

Edited by Kruschpak, 13 July 2013 - 02:14 PM.





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