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#1 Prolifics

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 09:07 PM

Or will wings still global me from 100% -> 20% within the first 2 seconds of a HoJ?

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 03:06 AM

View PostProlifics, on 09 July 2013 - 09:07 PM, said:

Or will wings still global me from 100% -> 20% within the first 2 seconds of a HoJ?

No known nerfs at this time. At least in the way of burst. GoAK is only stacking to 12 as opposed to 20, but I'm not sure if they buffed the str% component per stack. I wouldn't mind a nerf to our burst if we had some sort of defensive utility.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 03:24 AM

View Postterribleperson, on 10 July 2013 - 03:06 AM, said:

No known nerfs at this time. At least in the way of burst. GoAK is only stacking to 12 as opposed to 20, but I'm not sure if they buffed the str% component per stack. I wouldn't mind a nerf to our burst if we had some sort of defensive utility.

It's a nerf. They lowered the CD on it to keep the dps the same.

Also, rets have a lot of defensive utility.

This thread is also just terrible.
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Posted 10 July 2013 - 03:24 AM

Ret burst is really really ridiculous, but rets don't exist outside of hunter/ret/healer, hunter nerfs alone will probably make ret disappear.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 03:42 AM

View PostRadejjj, on 10 July 2013 - 03:24 AM, said:

Ret burst is really really ridiculous, but rets don't exist outside of hunter/ret/healer, hunter nerfs alone will probably make ret disappear.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 11:54 PM

I dunno, like I'd be all for increasing rets sustained dmg a bit to compensate for burst nerfs.. But damn is Wings out of control right onw.

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 09:35 AM

View PostProlifics, on 10 July 2013 - 11:54 PM, said:

I dunno, like I'd be all for increasing rets sustained dmg a bit to compensate for burst nerfs.. But damn is Wings out of control right onw.

Rets don't need more sustained damage, they just need burst nerfs

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 10:05 AM

GoAK nerf is a nerf to pop-all-cd's ret/hunt/disc playstyle, but buff for fights that last longer than the first two globals of Wings..
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Posted 11 July 2013 - 11:57 AM

View PostProlifics, on 09 July 2013 - 09:07 PM, said:

Or will wings still global me from 100% -> 20% within the first 2 seconds of a HoJ?

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 12:35 PM

View PostProlifics, on 09 July 2013 - 09:07 PM, said:

Or will wings still global me from 100% -> 20% within the first 2 seconds of a HoJ?

I didn't know wings can even hit anyone

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 04:44 PM

View PostDeonto, on 10 July 2013 - 03:24 AM, said:



It's a nerf. They lowered the CD on it to keep the dps the same.

Also, rets have a lot of defensive utility.

This thread is also just terrible.

While I didn't word that right, you're mistaken. Rets do not have any defensive utility that is not easily countered by a dispell.

I'm trained into the ground 95% of the time. I'm sure that's because of my staggering amountof defensive capabilities, right?

Also, I don't disagree with you about this thread. I was trying to ignore the whiney tone of the OP

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 06:10 PM

View PostProlifics, on 09 July 2013 - 09:07 PM, said:

Or will wings still global me from 100% -> 20% within the first 2 seconds of a HoJ?

am i reading this right? how does one get "globalled"(which means dying in 1.5 seconds btw from full health) for only 80% of thier HP?
Unless i'm reading it wrong.

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 06:28 PM

So glad they opened these forums for members, intelligent posts like

View Postwatduck, on 12 July 2013 - 06:10 PM, said:

am i reading this right? how does one get "globalled"(which means dying in 1.5 seconds btw from full health) for only 80% of thier HP?
Unless i'm reading it wrong.

Just makes it all worth it

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 02:57 PM

(worded this part like an asshat, omitted)

So my word obviously doesn't carry much weight, but I feel that anything that can do this much damage in one button is imbalanced:
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Pair this up with the utility that we have as a DPS (heals, sacrifice, freedom, bop, devotion aura, etc.) and I can easily understand why people can complain about our burst.


Generally though, problems nowadays can be solved by either nerfing directly or indirectly. Nerf priests/hunters and we get hurt.

I just hope they stop making drastic changes and hoping they somehow find a good balance in the process. It is really getting out of hand.


I miss the days where some classes had heavy damage, and others had the utility. Now we end up having a few classes that have tons of both.

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 05:46 PM

Ret Paladins should be fine with the PVP trinket set bonus. I hope anyway...because their damage if they connect right now is borderline absurd with wings up.

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 05:51 PM

rets wont get nerfed because of the kwok. and if you are crying about defensive utility having a wall every 30 seconds is painfully fucking retarded.

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 11:17 PM

View PostStructural, on 20 July 2013 - 05:51 PM, said:

rets wont get nerfed because of the kwok. and if you are crying about defensive utility having a wall every 30 seconds is painfully fucking retarded.

No one is crying about not having defensive utility. My point was that rets are currently trained into the ground 90% of the games they're in. If you can tell me a comp that ret currently does well in, in which you wouldn't choose to rape his face before all his other teammates, please tell me, because I like to run it (excluding the ret/mage comp in which there are probably ~2 of worldwide at decent levels).

I also think that the change to hand of purity is ridic, but it's not going to be the go-to talent for every match.

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 11:49 PM

People train ret paladins for the same reason they've always been trained. They heal their team mates for more if you don't hit them. Ret paladins clearly have the best offhealing out of any hybrid(except druids in HotW).

If you think ret will just disappear because hunters get nerfed you're insane. Ret still provides massive burst, and amazing support/utility. Ret has too many modifiers they can stack during CDs that just lead to stupid damage during CDs
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Posted 21 July 2013 - 12:15 AM

I honestly think if they raped hunter damage and ele damage I would be fine with how ret is.

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 12:26 AM

View PostTreetrunksxoxo, on 21 July 2013 - 12:15 AM, said:

I honestly think if they raped hunter damage and ele damage I would be fine with how ret is.

pretty much this, the only viable comp rets have right now is ret/hunter/x, once hunters are toned down we will see alot less of them and enh shamans as well
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