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Posted 03 July 2013 - 10:33 PM

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Good change to be honest,now they only need to add a way to see how many games you played and how many were wins during the active season. and it would be really nice!

cus most of us have more then 1 class of the main class we play (i got 3mages for example)


also this will ruin wintraders, forcing em to wintrade even more and get caught hahahahaa :D

Edit: explained more correct what i meant

Edited by Zerlog, 03 July 2013 - 11:07 PM.


#2 Bigmoran

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 10:39 PM

Good change. It's quite silly to see 11-7 W/L @ 2400+ rating. At least this somewhat ensures that the titles are distributed to those who are dedicated to RBGs.

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#3 Sivler

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 10:47 PM

View PostBigmoran, on 03 July 2013 - 10:39 PM, said:

Good change. It's quite silly to see 11-7 W/L @ 2400+ rating. At least this somewhat ensures that the titles are distributed to those who are dedicated to RBGs.

Completely agreed with you.
OP i have no idea why you'd call this change "horrible". I think it's a very good change.

#4 TteSPORTSDoomsen

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 10:54 PM

View PostZerlog, on 03 July 2013 - 10:33 PM, said:

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so seeing we cant track how many games/wins we had during a season i feel this change is horrible


Well, you are already forced to play 50 Games this season to achieve HOTA/HOTH in S13. This change just rewards the people that are really working a lot on getting the title, so it rewards def. the right ones. You also just don't do 50 arenagames/wins a season and a season lasts for several months.

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 11:05 PM

View PostSivler, on 03 July 2013 - 10:47 PM, said:

Completely agreed with you.
OP i have no idea why you'd call this change "horrible". I think it's a very good change.
i dont call this change a bad change, just saying that you cant "track" the games you have played.

totaly agree with you, they made it so you need 50games played total this season, that is great, no doubt bout the change in 5.4 either

View PostTteSPORTSDoomsen, on 03 July 2013 - 10:54 PM, said:

Well, you are already forced to play 50 Games this season to achieve HOTA/HOTH in S13. This change just rewards the people that are really working a lot on getting the title, so it rewards def. the right ones. You also just don't do 50 arenagames/wins a season and a season lasts for several months.

just worried that they will ignore the fact that you cant see how many wins youve had the active season (alt and such that you may play just for titles etc)  

but really looking forward to this if they add some way of tracking wins/season, other then that its a good change

Edited by Zerlog, 03 July 2013 - 11:06 PM.


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Posted 04 July 2013 - 02:37 PM

you can track the amount of wins you have this season, what are you talking about

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 09:37 PM

View PostBigmoran, on 03 July 2013 - 10:39 PM, said:

Good change. It's quite silly to see 11-7 W/L @ 2400+ rating. At least this somewhat ensures that the titles are distributed to those who are dedicated to RBGs.

Well what about in this case then?: http://eu.battle.net...ord/Орпи/simple

Seems legit right?! He has 313 games played and 313 wins....

Blizzard could EASILY implement a type of monitor in each BG where when characters breaks certain boundary outside of the starting gate, it would marked as legit. If there are not more than 5 players (accounting for DOS hits, Technical issues, missed queues, etc.) to come out of the starting area across that boundary then the whole game is flagged and GMs would then analyze that game a lot closer. I think this wold throw a gigantic wrench in the gears of wintrading fanatics.

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 09:12 PM

View Postemerald, on 04 July 2013 - 02:37 PM, said:

you can track the amount of wins you have this season, what are you talking about

No you can't, the ladder and your PvP tab reflects all of your wins and losses historically. Also, this isn't going to put much of a dent in win-traders. Most of the carries are to 2200 or 2400, sure Hero ones will take longer, but if Blizzard wanted to curb win-trading why not simply open their eyes for five seconds on the lader?

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 10:49 PM

View PostBailamosx, on 06 July 2013 - 09:12 PM, said:

No you can't, the ladder and your PvP tab reflects all of your wins and losses historically. Also, this isn't going to put much of a dent in win-traders. Most of the carries are to 2200 or 2400, sure Hero ones will take longer, but if Blizzard wanted to curb win-trading why not simply open their eyes for five seconds on the lader?
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Posted 06 July 2013 - 11:34 PM

Um, actually. I just re-thought this change, and, it's absolutely terrible. You guys shouldn't be happy at all. It's going to diminish the player pool and hyper-inflate the rating required for Hero. Basically, if I'm a player than win-traded for Hero, I'm going to be sure as hell to purchase enough games for 50. Sure, there are a small handful of players on the ladder that have a few wins and insane rating, but the overwhelming majority have a lot of wins. How can we tell how many they played this season? We can't. I'd be scared, and, I'm going to predict some of the highest ratings required for Hero ever.

TLDR: Basically, the change looks good on paper, but it's not a serious change. It does nothing to seriously curb win-trading and it's going to diminish the qualifying player pool and increase the value of having win-traded, exploited rating. Blizzard is cutting off the people at the bottom of the pyramid and pushing us "middle men" to the bottom to replace them.

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 11:38 PM

People actually take RBGs seriously in this xpac?
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Posted 06 July 2013 - 11:45 PM

Well, TR for instance requires 100 games played for the vanquisher title. Since most people dont bother going for 100 games the Vanq title is sometimes achieved at 2k rating. Considering most players who are high rated care very little about RBGs it may create a lower requirement considering most play rbgs first week on a tues to get 2200-2400 first night and then only play 2 games a week to finish cap.

It doesnt fix the issue with wintraders on the ladder one bit, but considering the inactivity of high rated rbgs mid-late this season it may make hero actually easier to obtain for casuals.

-The new arena system promotes consistent arena and doesn't promote sitting teams, so rbgs may very well be as dead like they are right now.
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Posted 07 July 2013 - 12:24 AM

Because you can use common sense to eliminate half of the people over 2500 on the ladder, Blizzard simply looks like a bunch of goons for doing nothing about cheating.  If I remember correctly, RBGs have been the focal point of their development for the majority of the last two expansions, yet things as simple as displaying EOTS wins and banning cheaters is overlooked for years.  Even dating back to season 9, for the first couple months RBGs existed you would get a loss if you hit "leave battleground" when it ended.

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 11:08 AM

View Postrob-hype, on 06 July 2013 - 11:45 PM, said:

-The new arena system promotes consistent arena and doesn't promote sitting teams, so rbgs may very well be as dead like they are right now.

Just as many people RBG as 3v3 in this game. No new System is going to kill off RBGs, and, stating that RBG rating is somehow lower because of less of a competitive player pool is irrelevant. I'm talking about facts, what's on the ladder now, and, how changes in the Hero requirement affect us that care about the title. Your post doesn't really tie into that.

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 11:19 AM

View PostMarshmellow, on 06 July 2013 - 11:38 PM, said:

People actually take RBGs seriously in this xpac?

More serious than anyone takes you.

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 11:33 AM

View PostBailamosx, on 07 July 2013 - 11:19 AM, said:

More serious than anyone takes you.


Haha burn xd, bailamos is US realms as dead as EU right now? like no teams above 2100-2200queing and if your above 2350team cr you get 10min ques?

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 11:36 AM

View PostBailamosx, on 07 July 2013 - 11:19 AM, said:

More serious than anyone takes you.

Implying the self given title "rank one rbg leader" isn't a complete joke
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Posted 08 July 2013 - 08:53 AM

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Implying the self given title "rank one rbg leader" isn't a complete joke

u tlkn bout mes?
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Posted 08 July 2013 - 09:11 AM

View PostCovlol, on 08 July 2013 - 08:53 AM, said:

u tlkn bout mes?

Mes didn't give that title to himself, so no
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Posted 08 July 2013 - 09:38 AM

View PostGiltie, on 05 July 2013 - 09:37 PM, said:

Well what about in this case then?: http://eu.battle.net...ord/Орпи/simple

Seems legit right?! He has 313 games played and 313 wins....

That is awesome 4274 CR   :D, totally legit




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