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#21 Enim

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 05:07 PM

View PostHvidepenge, on 21 June 2013 - 01:15 PM, said:

The day they actually do the changes u can start whine about it, half of nerfs feral had last patch dident even happen.

You realise that people whining(providing feedback) is one of the reasons that at least a few stupid changes don't make it to live.

Personally I love the idea of getting to hardcast once again. However NS needs to be baseline for all specs, boomkin will be gutted without it and if feral lose PS clone then they really need to keep NS.

Edited by Enim, 21 June 2013 - 05:07 PM.


#22 XtraT

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 05:16 PM

View Postdominera, on 21 June 2013 - 12:55 PM, said:

Yes in theory it is. But i dont think it will be that when the changes hit live due to the fact that there is alot of interrupts/stuns/instant cc so it will be very very hard getting clones off

You mean there will be a way to counter feral's undispelable, cooldown-less CC? The horror.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 05:22 PM

View PostEnim, on 21 June 2013 - 05:07 PM, said:

You realise that people whining(providing feedback) is one of the reasons that at least a few stupid changes don't make it to live.

Personally I love the idea of getting to hardcast once again. However NS needs to be baseline for all specs, boomkin will be gutted without it and if feral lose PS clone then they really need to keep NS.
Blizzard cannot balance 3 specs for one class. In most of cases they cannot even balance 2, be grateful at least u have one really strong one, in comparison look at rogues or warriors.  Even with that change ferals still be strong.

#24 dionim

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 05:33 PM

i remenber in s5 having to cast cyclones with a dk and a pet on me, it was only possible when i had barskin (due to pushback) fun times (for real, alot better than now).

Edited by dionim, 21 June 2013 - 05:33 PM.


#25 Udderly

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 05:56 PM

View Postdominera, on 21 June 2013 - 12:55 PM, said:

Yes in theory it is. But i dont think it will be that when the changes hit live due to the fact that there is alot of interrupts/stuns/instant cc so it will be very very hard getting clones off

So you think its BAD if they decide to use their kick/silence on you as the MELEE, leaving your healer free to cast?  /tapping my head

View PostCapers, on 21 June 2013 - 03:39 PM, said:

Why not just make clone castable in cat form, and maybe make it castable while running for feral. I don't see how that would be a problem.

This is a terrible idea (no offence).  Locks being able to fear around pillars was skilless, and I'm so glad it's not passive anymore.  You should be rewarded for your positioning, not punished because someone can cast while moving.

#26 sarma

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 06:19 PM

View PostKyrpyoSwag, on 21 June 2013 - 11:41 AM, said:

  • Predatory Swiftness no longer has a chance to make Cyclone instant, free, and castable in all forms.

Sad part is it took 2 xpacs for them to realise this needs to go

Edited by sarma, 21 June 2013 - 06:20 PM.

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#27 Abidalzim

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 06:38 PM

Good change and it's what pretty much every feral was saying should have happened instead of the 20 sec cd.
Zaka pa te če naja morš te ne, te pa če pa te ne čuj, kaj te to te je, ne?

#28 Enim

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 08:04 PM

View PostXtraT, on 21 June 2013 - 05:16 PM, said:

You mean there will be a way to counter feral's undispelable, cooldown-less CC? The horror.

Not to be that guy, but you could always dispel PS.

#29 Korzul

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 08:30 PM

Make it castable in cat form and make PS give it a 30% increased casting speed (1.2 sec cast).

Edited by Korzul, 21 June 2013 - 08:36 PM.


#30 Snuggli

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 08:43 PM

View PostCapers, on 21 June 2013 - 03:39 PM, said:

Why not just make clone castable in cat form, and maybe make it castable while running for feral. I don't see how that would be a problem.

View PostKorzul, on 21 June 2013 - 08:30 PM, said:

Make it castable in cat form and make PS give it a 30% increased casting speed (1.2 sec cast).

Castable in cat form and being able to run while doing it seems more than reasonable.

Right now though, if these changes go through, Ferals only CC left will be bash... every 50 seconds, from melee range. That's just stupid.



Edited in quotes for Braindance

Edited by Snuggli, 21 June 2013 - 10:15 PM.

View PostBraindance, on 11 October 2013 - 12:44 PM, said:

Go listen to some Bieber shit and leave me alone fucko.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 09:04 PM

taking away NS clone away is a little overboard

#32 Braindance

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 09:06 PM

View PostSnuggli, on 21 June 2013 - 08:43 PM, said:

Castable in cat form and being able to run while doing it seems more than reasonable.

Right now though, if these changes go through, Ferals only CC left will be bash... every 50 seconds, from melee range. That's just stupid.

ahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahaha

And then people say the game is shit. Of course is shit when people even think about implementing things like that rofl.

You should be grateful that you have cc as a melee dps and on top of that good off heals and t1 damage.

Rofl clone while moving hahahaahah

View PostZerstiren, on 14 August 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

If you haven't +repped this guy, you are part of the problem.

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

#33 Numbtoes

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 09:07 PM

Ferals were complaining  about the instant cyclone nerf when 5.2 hit saying that they would rather just be able to cast cyclone whenever they want rather than having it on a 20 second cd, so this is kind of what most ferals wanted before the last nerf hit. This is a good change, instant cyclone is too strong right now.

Oops didn't see the post above me.

Edited by Numbtoes, 21 June 2013 - 09:08 PM.


#34 Sennaxz

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 09:49 PM

The thing is ferals wont get the cast off;d Too much instants in the game.

#35 Snuggli

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 09:52 PM

View PostBraindance, on 21 June 2013 - 09:06 PM, said:

ahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahaha

And then people say the game is shit. Of course is shit when people even think about implementing things like that rofl.

You should be grateful that you have cc as a melee dps and on top of that good off heals and t1 damage.

Rofl clone while moving hahahaahah

Don't know why you're quoting and bolding me when I was responding to the 2-3 people who have suggested it, saying it was MORE than reasonable if instant clone got removed.

Confused why you're posting here though, it's not a thread whining about how shit warriors are.

Edited by Snuggli, 21 June 2013 - 09:56 PM.

View PostBraindance, on 11 October 2013 - 12:44 PM, said:

Go listen to some Bieber shit and leave me alone fucko.

#36 Giky

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 09:54 PM

Nice change

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 09:55 PM

View PostSnuggli, on 21 June 2013 - 09:52 PM, said:

Don't know why you're quoting and bolding me when I was responding to the 2-3 people who have suggested it, saying it was MORE than reasonable if instant clone got removed.

I don't know why you're posting here though, it's not a thread whining about how shit warriors are.
I don't see you quoting anyone when 'responding to the 2-3 people'.

It is as reasonable as Bieber is quality music.

View PostZerstiren, on 14 August 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

If you haven't +repped this guy, you are part of the problem.

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

#38 Snuggli

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 10:07 PM

View PostBraindance, on 21 June 2013 - 09:55 PM, said:

I don't see you quoting anyone when 'responding to the 2-3 people'.

It is as reasonable as Bieber is quality music.

The post was directly above mine, hardly needed to be quoted (There was another on 1st page).

View PostBraindance, on 11 October 2013 - 12:44 PM, said:

Go listen to some Bieber shit and leave me alone fucko.

#39 Kaylol

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 10:28 PM

View Postdominera, on 21 June 2013 - 11:58 AM, said:

There is no way you will be able to get a clone off as a feral with this change.
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#40 Enim

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 10:28 PM

View PostBraindance, on 21 June 2013 - 09:06 PM, said:

ahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahaha

And then people say the game is shit. Of course is shit when people even think about implementing things like that rofl.

You should be grateful that you have cc as a melee dps and on top of that good off heals and t1 damage.

Rofl clone while moving hahahaahah

And people says that this forum hasn't gone to shit. Act less retarded pls.

I could drop 5 melee specs with cc, aoe cc and so forth(Yes, I realise that most of these have cds). I'm not saying that clone while moving at all is a great way to solve it(it's not), but it's not ridiculous. The optimal thing to do if you wanted to keep PS useful for clones would be just that. Ability to cast cyclone while in cat form(and possibly while running).

Edited by Enim, 21 June 2013 - 10:29 PM.





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