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#301 BalanceRexxar

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Posted 15 July 2015 - 07:29 PM

View Postglonglon, on 15 July 2015 - 05:56 PM, said:

Hey Balance, now that the feral staff is available to ww, should we stick with the polearm or go with the staff ? Both weapons  have the same dps but the staff has a speed of 2.00 instead of 3.60 for the polearm :

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Posted 15 July 2015 - 09:51 PM

How come staff is better?

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Posted 15 July 2015 - 09:59 PM

Must confess that an explanation would be nice :)

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Posted 15 July 2015 - 10:57 PM

it does more dmg

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Posted 16 July 2015 - 02:45 AM

I've just done a little of maths and the overall dmg of staff and polearm are the same, maybe because of the uptime the 2.00 is better.
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Posted 16 July 2015 - 03:51 AM

Only way to know is to ask a pveboy who knows how to use simulationcraft :(

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Posted 16 July 2015 - 07:10 AM

View PostBalanceRexxar, on 15 July 2015 - 07:29 PM, said:



2.0

Until now I was using 2x1h for the looks because they only had 1% less dps than the 2h (+ I think 2x1h were better with the huricane strike build than the 2h because of the chance to do a grater hit with abilities). But does the 2.0 Staff really does more dps than the polearm?

Has anyone done the maths or any testing on this?

Is the attack speed on our character info even changing? Or the damage of the abilities is even chaning? (Not gona be home for few days to test it)

Edited by Manowar, 16 July 2015 - 07:13 AM.

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Posted 16 July 2015 - 09:39 PM

I'm too lazy to read this, pls halp :(

https://code.google....i/StartersGuide

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Posted 17 July 2015 - 04:10 AM

View Postglonglon, on 16 July 2015 - 09:39 PM, said:

I'm too lazy to read this, pls halp :(

https://code.google....i/StartersGuide
I decided to do few sims for the lols with the following criteria: Patchwerk fight for 250 seconds on a max level player target. This means you get to tunnel your target the whole time for about 4 minutes, so I'm not sure how accurate it is in reality.

Wild Gladiator's Pike (polearm) - Mark of Warsong
28208 dps
28222 dps
28211 dps
28214 dps
28215 dps
28203 dps

Wild Gladiator's Staff (2.00 speed staff) - Mark of Warsong
28693 dps
28695 dps
28690 dps
28685 dps
28698 dps

Wild Gladiator's Quickblade x2 - Mark of Warsong x2
28276 dps
28285 dps
28271 dps
28287 dps
28281 dps

This is simulated with my 699ilvl pvp geared monk. Chi Explosion / Chi Torpedo / Chi Burst spec on all.

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Posted 17 July 2015 - 05:24 AM

Thanks Divinitum :)

Seems like the staff is the way to go.

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Posted 17 July 2015 - 07:55 AM

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I decided to do few sims for the lols with the following criteria: Patchwerk fight for 250 seconds on a max level player target. This means you get to tunnel your target the whole time for about 4 minutes, so I'm not sure how accurate it is in reality.

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Yeah, thanks man!

Staff seems to have a respected amount of dps over the other options.
Its weird how 2x1h does more dmg than Polearm right now, since last season was the other way around, but it is a really small difference anw.

Edited by Manowar, 19 July 2015 - 10:18 PM.

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Posted 17 July 2015 - 12:38 PM

I'm no expert at WW theorycrafting, but I believe the biggest difference lies in Tiger Strikes uptime.

Polearm and DW having similar numbers (~24% and ~30%) could explain why DW is a miniscule amount ahead.

The staff can reach up to almost 50%.

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Posted 19 July 2015 - 04:53 PM

Just leveled my ally monk to 100 and had a couple of questions:

1) Currently playing as human, but with the recent buff to the PvP trinket, is it worth it to go gnome for the added haste, energy, and racial?

2) Hurricane Strike: is there a comp or scenario where I would take this over Chi Explosion or does it just depend on my stat priority preference?

thanks in advance!

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Posted 19 July 2015 - 10:08 PM

View PostRuntheTrap, on 19 July 2015 - 04:53 PM, said:

Just leveled my ally monk to 100 and had a couple of questions:

1) Currently playing as human, but with the recent buff to the PvP trinket, is it worth it to go gnome for the added haste, energy, and racial?

2) Hurricane Strike: is there a comp or scenario where I would take this over Chi Explosion or does it just depend on my stat priority preference?

thanks in advance!

both gnome and human are good, human has slightly more burst but less consistant than other races, I prefer gnome for the foolish looks and the racial which allows me to take celerity in times where I would have to spec tiger's lust as human. Both are good and up to you.

For your talents just stick with Chi explosion.

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Posted 27 July 2015 - 05:24 PM

Hey what are your guys thoughts on keeping set bonuses over epics? worth it or nah?

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I got Dragon Roar'd by a Warrior in Ashran and it knocked me through the floor then made me DC for 10 minutes.

I didn't submit a bug though, with the state of Warriors throughout MoP it wouldn't surprise me if it was intended.

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Posted 27 July 2015 - 07:25 PM

View PostRippedLife, on 27 July 2015 - 05:24 PM, said:

Hey what are your guys thoughts on keeping set bonuses over epics? worth it or nah?

i have 4 pieces of wild gear set that i switch between, if i face ebola cleave that will just run at my paladin i lose my 2 and 4 set, if i face hpal jungle that will run at me and bop my karma, i will run the 4 set.

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Posted 27 July 2015 - 07:56 PM

View PostBalanceRexxar, on 27 July 2015 - 07:25 PM, said:

i have 4 pieces of wild gear set that i switch between, if i face ebola cleave that will just run at my paladin i lose my 2 and 4 set, if i face hpal jungle that will run at me and bop my karma, i will run the 4 set.

makes sense, thanks for the reply dawg

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I didn't submit a bug though, with the state of Warriors throughout MoP it wouldn't surprise me if it was intended.

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