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#61 Reppn

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 09:10 PM

so I see people going haste over master and vise versa which one is it?

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 09:32 PM

View PostReppn, on 02 October 2013 - 09:10 PM, said:

so I see people going haste over master and vise versa which one is it?

If you read the little reforging article I spent soooo much time on, you see me say...

There isn't a right or wrong way, it's still early in the season and we don't have max gear. There aren't a lot of monks so there isn't a lot of testing, I'm finding I'm having a lot of uptime on targets so I'm going haste over that small 8% extra chance that you'll get 2 stacks instead of 1.

In my personal opinion, Crit > Haste > Mastery,

In some other players opinion, Haste > Crit > Mastery

In some other players opinion, Crit > Mastery > Haste.


Take your pick, GLHF :)

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 12:36 PM

Btw just nitpicking now but alchemy is just as good for pve as any other profession, you get the agility bonus on normal flasks if you use those afaik ^^

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 02:04 PM

View PostDarthgnoe, on 03 October 2013 - 12:36 PM, said:

Btw just nitpicking now but alchemy is just as good for pve as any other profession, you get the agility bonus on normal flasks if you use those afaik ^^

oh cool, i'll fix that rq

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 07:10 PM

has anyone tried the tier 16 ? 2set bonus? any expirience?
i reforge haste and try it later

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 01:40 AM

View PostXikoy, on 07 October 2013 - 07:10 PM, said:

has anyone tried the tier 16 ? 2set bonus? any expirience?
i reforge haste and try it later

I played around with it on the ptr and it actually wasnt too bad, blackout kick was hitting about as hard as rising sun kick when it procced, but it felt really rng based

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 01:45 AM

View PostXikoy, on 07 October 2013 - 07:10 PM, said:

has anyone tried the tier 16 ? 2set bonus? any expirience?
i reforge haste and try it later
If it didn't get scaled down I'd probably take it but considering it goes to 497 ilvl (I think) combined with the loss of PvP power and stamina, I feel like it wouldn't be worth it, maybe you get a random lucky crit but other than that I'm not sure if it would be better.

Just an opinion, feel free to try it out.

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 03:25 AM

View PostBalanceRexxar, on 08 October 2013 - 01:45 AM, said:

If it didn't get scaled down I'd probably take it but considering it goes to 497 ilvl (I think) combined with the loss of PvP power and stamina, I feel like it wouldn't be worth it, maybe you get a random lucky crit but other than that I'm not sure if it would be better.

Just an opinion, feel free to try it out.

Not that I know anything about the actual math of the set bonus, but just an FYI on the item level - all PVE gear will eventually scale to 512 - which is 10 ilvels lower than PVP gear, so that PVP gear always has a better stat budget.  It's a slow scale up from 496-512 over the season.

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 02:24 PM

So i played a few hours with the T16 2Set Bonus in different combs against mostly 2k teams.
Its like darshmellow already said - totally rng based . I lost ~5% pvp power and its not worth it for maybe ~30k extra dmg on blackout/tiger.

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 02:48 PM

Btw you can port with only your clones up, I've done it numerous times on my WW.  I hope this isn't a bug because it is very useful in BGs and when rooted.

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 10:12 PM

View PostArchuriel, on 08 October 2013 - 02:48 PM, said:

Btw you can port with only your clones up, I've done it numerous times on my WW.  I hope this isn't a bug because it is very useful in BGs and when rooted.

yeah i saw that post and i added that to the guide already

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 11:41 PM

just for clarification you don't need to have a transcendence spirit down in order to port to a Storm Earth and Fire clone, and you will always Transfer to your most recently summoned spirit I.E if you put out 2 storm earth and fire clones you will port to the second one, and if you put out a clone and then put down a port you will transfer to the Transcendence port

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 01:56 AM

View PostMarshmellow, on 08 October 2013 - 11:41 PM, said:

just for clarification you don't need to have a transcendence spirit down in order to port to a Storm Earth and Fire clone, and you will always Transfer to your most recently summoned spirit I.E if you put out 2 storm earth and fire clones you will port to the second one, and if you put out a clone and then put down a port you will transfer to the Transcendence port
oh cool, I didn't know that.


it's like a really really really shitty shadowstep, but I still like it

Edited by BalanceRexxar, 09 October 2013 - 01:56 AM.


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Posted 09 October 2013 - 02:39 AM

View PostBalanceRexxar, on 09 October 2013 - 01:56 AM, said:

oh cool, I didn't know that.


it's like a really really really shitty shadowstep, but I still like it

yea it takes about 3 seconds to get off which is kinda poo but it makes landing leg sweeps on healers and getting up on z axis maps soo convinient

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 06:01 AM

View PostMarshmellow, on 09 October 2013 - 02:39 AM, said:

yea it takes about 3 seconds to get off which is kinda poo but it makes landing leg sweeps on healers and getting up on z axis maps soo convinient

I also noticed that if you set a port down then use a clone then cancel the clone it fucks up your original port, it was funny, I did this several times in 1 game and I had 3-4 clones of myself behind the same pillar.


edit: and because of this graphical bug I'm assuming porting on your clones is a bug itself and will be hotfixed.

Edited by BalanceRexxar, 09 October 2013 - 06:01 AM.


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Posted 10 October 2013 - 01:44 AM

where is that 2v2 guide? :D im obviously doing something wrong against war teams... specially war/rdruid war/mw war/hpala .. im running with a hpriest btw.. and 1 more thing mirrors.. go monk or go priest?

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 02:20 AM

View PostDonie, on 10 October 2013 - 01:44 AM, said:

where is that 2v2 guide? :D im obviously doing something wrong against war teams... specially war/rdruid war/mw war/hpala .. im running with a hpriest btw.. and 1 more thing mirrors.. go monk or go priest?

Heh, I'm waiting for 2v2 to become a real bracket again.

For war / rdruid swaps on the rdruid would be really great w/ 10 stack legsweep fists of fury, mw war SHOULD be a tie, best best is to get war low and play gay, war hpal, same thing as others, get stacks on warrior then make swaps to the healer.

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Posted 14 October 2013 - 05:57 PM

Speaking of SEF clones, I posted in the rogue thread, but maybe you all will know as well.

I was in a Twin Peaks game the other day on my rogue.  A monk put one of his clones on me, which I thought was a little weird.  After a while, I vanished.  The clone followed me.  I changed direction, the clone kept following me.  I wasn't smart enough to think to look at target of target to see if the clone had me targeted still, or was somehow drone-following me like a shadow-priest's ghosts.

Anyone know if this was a fluke I hit, or are you able to keep tabs on a stealthed/vanished rogue with clones?

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 11:38 PM

I am freezing my WoW account for an unknown amount of time, maybe forever, maybe till next patch. I don't have fun on it anymore and not playing frees up a lot of time. Therefore, feel free to copy paste if I miss a big patch and edit or add whatever and try to get it stickied. Sorry, hope to see monks on the ladder in the future

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 12:11 PM

What do you guys think bout chi brew now, I love ascension but with hotfix we now have a shot at instantly having 8 stacks... Seems like it may be too good to pass up on.




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