5.4 PTR - New Mastery
Posted 20 June 2013 - 09:56 PM
This is a direct hit to frost PVP and to the only thing that makes the class a little fun to play, those short burst windows. I doubt there will be compensation elsewhere, and Holinka is already on twitter defending the change in his usual sly politician style where he doesn't actually answer the questions, but makes it look like he does. This change will likely go live with few or no changes and it will be the end of frost as a competitive spec. Start watching some Spoils vids.
Posted 21 June 2013 - 12:13 AM
Posted 21 June 2013 - 12:17 AM
What control are you talking about? Only difference in control between Frost and Arcane is Petnova for Frost and Slow for Arcane..
Posted 21 June 2013 - 12:30 AM
Posted 21 June 2013 - 02:03 AM
heard it here first.
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Posted 21 June 2013 - 02:20 AM
Posted 21 June 2013 - 06:37 AM
Posted 21 June 2013 - 06:52 AM
lance on frozen targets : 23k-25k
bomb on frozen targets: 65k-70k
frostbolt on frozen targets: 28k-30k
Frostbomb is fine since they buffed it the previous night even tho everybody plays with living bomb.
I had 0 proccs up when i did the testing.There is absolutely no point in having frostbolt in ur bars, like none+u do shit dmg when target is deeped, i guess that was the point of that nerf.
Posted 21 June 2013 - 08:57 AM
Posted 21 June 2013 - 09:22 AM
This change doesn't affect PvE at all...
Posted 21 June 2013 - 09:41 AM
they most likely havent done any pve content so far. there are a few encounters where add's running around which arent completely immune to every CC (includes petnova :X) ... means you usually wont have any "frozen targets" in a pve environment
once and for all, this change affects the PVP frostmage, noone else
Edited by Alisea, 21 June 2013 - 09:42 AM.
Posted 21 June 2013 - 09:41 AM
Mastery: Frostburn no longer gives bonus damage to all spells against frozen targets. Now Fingers of Frost now increases the damage of Ice Lance by an additional 16%, and Brain Freeze increases the damage of the instant Frostfire Bolt by 16%
Mastery: Frostburn has been redesigned. Fingers of Frost now increases the damage of Ice Lance by an additional 2%, Brain Freeze increases the damage of the instant cast Frostfire Bolt by 2%, and damage done by the Mage's Water Elemental is increased by 2%.
Posted 21 June 2013 - 11:26 AM
I'm gonna go get good at fire or arcane, frost isn't ever going to feel good again, WOTLK frost was the best. Cata was actually kinda fun too cause you could actually fucking kite something. Idk if any player notices this but your uptime on a mage is disgustingly high as a melee and every melee but DKs have a way out of novas (rogues to a lesser extent).
They say that they wanted to promote casting but they removed Early Frost from the game after cata and they continue to promote procs.
Edited by pyrellael_3428244, 21 June 2013 - 11:27 AM.
Posted 21 June 2013 - 12:49 PM
Edited by Maticzor, 21 June 2013 - 12:50 PM.
Posted 21 June 2013 - 08:41 PM
parts of mop was a step in the right direction from cata, moving us back to having to cast in most situations to do damage, and this change just completly fucks all that and makes stacking mastery and doing nothing but spam instants all day the best option
ill go out on a limb and say that now, mage damage is retarded in two situations only. when the mage has all procs and buffs up, and when the mage is playing with a shaman so all their burst does 10% more damage. adjusting how this massive damage buff interacts with players in an arena/rbg situation would be a far better fix for mages without completely gutting the setup cast time spell aspect of the class, but then 2k rated ele mage x comps might not be able to global stuff all the way to 2.4k, so that change just wouldnt do would it
Edited by Dizzeeyo, 21 June 2013 - 08:47 PM.
Posted 21 June 2013 - 09:11 PM
Posted 21 June 2013 - 10:40 PM
Posted 22 June 2013 - 07:11 AM
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Posted 23 June 2013 - 04:48 AM
Does anyone know how they "redesigned" our mastery?
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