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#1 Crawthz

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Posted 19 June 2013 - 11:43 PM

So, new PTR build hit just now and in came new change
  • Mastery: Frostburn All your spells deal 16% increased damage against Frozen targets Fingers of Frost now increases the damage of Ice Lance by an additional 16%, and Brain Freeze increases the damage of the instant Frostfire Bolt by 16%. Increases the damage done by your Water Elemental by 16%. Mage - Frost Spec.
So, basically 45%'ish nerf to Frostbolt, Frostbomb and Frozen Orb. Also non-FoF Icelances got nerfed by that 45%'ish. Some people have even more mastery than that, so all your current mastery's worth you just got nerfed for. Deep burst got nerfed by just the same amount.



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Oh and also, Temporal Shield got 15% damage reduction aswell..

Worst changes coming for 5.4 guys, mages are out after this.

[Edit to clarify math]
It's not that big, but somewhere between 30-40% damage reduction.

Edited by Crawthz, 20 June 2013 - 12:17 AM.

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#2 Gekz

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Posted 19 June 2013 - 11:54 PM

even less worth it to cast now

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Posted 19 June 2013 - 11:57 PM

you really think changes are final already...

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Posted 19 June 2013 - 11:58 PM

I seriously don't think this will make it live.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 12:00 AM

View Postphael, on 19 June 2013 - 11:58 PM, said:

I seriously don't think this will make it live.

This is Blizzard though. Mages need nerfs time to gut them? Don't make sense.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 12:02 AM

View Postjamninja, on 20 June 2013 - 12:00 AM, said:

This is Blizzard though. Mages need nerfs time to gut them? Don't make sense.

I realize that, but this is... pretty unbelievable.

They kinda went full potato on this, how it even made it through the design process is beyond me.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 12:06 AM

You'll be fine, have you forgotten already how they "nerfed" hunters? :duckers:

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 12:09 AM

5.3 Let's buff frostbolt to promote casting

5.4 Let's nerf frostbolt and frostbomb by 45%, cuz fuck casting.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 12:19 AM

Change mastery to "when you use your fingers of frost on ice lance and brain freeze on ffb you have % chance to mimic the last spell casted. Chance to mimic 3 times." While we sit there all day kiting and waiting for procs.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 12:19 AM

there is no word to describe the bullshitness i just read.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 12:28 AM

i wouldnt mind them nerfing frozen orb, i hate that ability cuz it does so much dmg, but frostbolt and frostbomb?wow i never thought their IQ was so low.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 02:15 AM

they need to put frostbolt back on FoF then if thats the fucking case.
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Posted 20 June 2013 - 02:45 AM

View Postcoolguymonk, on 20 June 2013 - 12:04 AM, said:

ooow, what a shame, mages can burst someone for 200k every 1minute.. :-(

and yeah hunters fuck u deep in the arse and so what does that make fo and df balanced? no it doesnt so dont even go there.

very nice change.


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Posted 20 June 2013 - 02:54 AM

So basically I smell Living Bomb all the way then?

#dem_procs

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 03:03 AM

So they're nerfing pretty much every aspect of offensive casting, thus making mages even more reliant on FoF and Brain Freeze, forcing this horrible play style revolving around random instant-cast procs, which neither mages nor opponents seem to find enjoyable.
I don't know how Blizzard ever thought of this as being a good idea.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 03:04 AM

and i had an warlock alt seems like they are getting gutted, atleast i have my DK or honnorbuddy to back me up :) hell what class havnt been stupid in mop so i can start lvling one (joking), why cant they balance wow like sc2.. i know but still!


So basicly, spamm sheep living bomb and proc spells, orb anything stacked to get procs and hopefully do more dmg then tanks in pve

Edited by Zerlog, 20 June 2013 - 03:05 AM.


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Posted 20 June 2013 - 03:11 AM

View PostZerlog, on 20 June 2013 - 03:04 AM, said:

and i had an warlock alt seems like they are getting gutted, atleast i have my DK or honnorbuddy to back me up :) hell what class havnt been stupid in mop so i can start lvling one (joking), why cant they balance wow like sc2.. i know but still!


So basicly, spamm sheep living bomb and proc spells, orb anything stacked to get procs and hopefully do more dmg then tanks in pve

Link honorbuddy dl plx

On-topic:
The playstyle is gonna be way more than boring now. I would rather have a green-geared char in arenas!

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 03:33 AM

View PostEnyalius, on 20 June 2013 - 03:11 AM, said:

Link honorbuddy dl plx

On-topic:
The playstyle is gonna be way more than boring now. I would rather have a green-geared char in arenas!

just google it, best 20 bucks I've ever spent

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 04:45 AM

View PostMarshmellow, on 20 June 2013 - 03:33 AM, said:

just google it, best 20 bucks I've ever spent


this!

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 06:00 AM

If this change goes through then Frost Bomb should be instant, if the dmg is nerfed why would we want to cast a dispelable interruptable bomb that do less dmg than FoF lance? Acutally, even if it becomes instant I'd still go for Living Bomb and go with the fish for procs playstyle which is boring. The part I don't get is frostbolt and other spells getting raped by this nerf.

If anything it should be this, Mastery: Frostburn: All your spells except Frostbomb deal 16% increased damage against Frozen targets. This itself would be a big nerf to our burst. But they went beyond that and raped the whole spec. If this goes through then RIP frost.




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