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#21 Capers

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 03:21 PM

datamined changes =/= official patch notes

don't cut ya dicks off nerds


People say this a lot, but we all know that it just gets put in anyway.
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#22 fant0m8

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 05:05 PM

I'm pretty sure all these damage reduction changes are for PVE reasons. They don't want some DPS to be inherently better at X raid mechanic passively. I think?

So I hope that we can get them to compensate these nerfs with a PVP only survivability buff. Increase baseline resil maybe? Or hell, they could just make those abilities give more resil.



edit: Yup, PVE change:

http://eu.battle.net...54860?page=4#63

Official Blizzard Quote:

We removed these because they were causing a lot of problems in PvE situations. Don't fret though as we intend to balance around this change as we can adjust the damage in PvP to compensate for this in many different ways, such as resilience.

To those wondering why Aspect of the Iron Hawk was only reduced in damage reduction rather than removed, this is because it's a talent and it still needs to have a purpose.

Edited by fant0m8, 14 June 2013 - 10:18 PM.

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#23 Capers

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 05:08 PM

I'm pretty sure all these damage reduction changes are for PVE reasons. They don't want some DPS to be inherently better at X raid mechanic passively. I think?

So I hope that we can get them to compensate these nerfs with a PVP only survivability buff. Increase baseline resil maybe? Or hell, they could just make those abilities give more resil.


They could tie it into the pvp set bonuses if anything.
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#24 Pankakez

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 07:16 PM

Those are great ideas if that's there intentions!
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#25 faiderlol

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 09:44 PM

yeah, this nerf is huge but i think they will change it abit.. because that would be game changing for priestes.
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#26 Pankakez

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 04:39 AM

yeah, this nerf is huge but i think they will change it abit.. because that would be game changing for priestes.


Lets hope they do or I will completely bench the priest!

Edited by Pankakez, 13 June 2013 - 04:39 AM.

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#27 Marshmellow

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 04:42 AM

Lets hope they do or I will completely bench the priest!


didn't you already reroll fotm ele anyways?
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#28 vindz

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 01:47 AM

They nerfed md and lifeswap wich we all can play without now, but this will be gamebreaking. Every1 will go disc or some fotm class.
Maybe time to quit the game. :D
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#29 Maticzor

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 02:46 AM

After reading the change

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#30 Hudder

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 09:16 PM

The passive damage reduction removal from locks,boomkins and sp's are intended as a pve nerf. Obiviously these changes won't go through pvp wise.

Easy solution would be to make it a set bonus, and make vt horror dispel baseline.

Edited by Hudder, 14 June 2013 - 09:18 PM.

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#31 Lilyi

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 06:25 AM

Latest PTR patch notes: http://us.battle.net..._11_2013#priest

Official Blizzard Quote:

Shadowform' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/10158897/54_PTR_Now_Live-6_11_2013#priest']Shadowform now increases the Priest's armor by 60%, but no longer reduces all damage taken by 15%.


Armor formula for level 86+:

DamageReduction = TargetArmor / (TargetArmor + 4037.5*AttackerLevel - 317117.5)

Armor in full Tyrannical gear and Inner Fire: 27086
Armor in full Tyrannical gear, Inner Fire, and new Shadowform: 43337.6

old shadowform spell and bleed mitigation: 15%

old shadowform physical mitigation: 46.3908%

new shadowform spell and bleed mitigation: 0%

new shadowform physical mitigation: 48.3705%

physical mitigation increase for new shadowform: 3.6929%


TL;DR: In PvP, shadow priests will take ~3.7% less direct physical damage, 15% more bleed damage, and 15% more spell damage with the current version of shadowform on PTR.

Edited by Lilyi, 21 June 2013 - 06:30 AM.

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#32 Marshmellow

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 06:32 AM

Inb4 blizzard makes armor reduce spell damage too
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#33 Alamar

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 08:18 AM

Guys, it's a change for pve....of course its going to go live. If it was just a badly thought out pvp balance idea it probably wouldn't make it....time for us to take the back seat to pve yet again.
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#34 Isumi

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Posted 22 June 2013 - 01:41 AM

Latest PTR patch notes: http://us.battle.net..._11_2013#priest

Official Blizzard Quote:

Shadowform now increases the Priest's armor by 60%, but no longer reduces all damage taken by 15%.


Armor formula for level 86+:

DamageReduction = TargetArmor / (TargetArmor + 4037.5*AttackerLevel - 317117.5)

Armor in full Tyrannical gear and Inner Fire: 27086
Armor in full Tyrannical gear, Inner Fire, and new Shadowform: 43337.6

old shadowform spell and bleed mitigation: 15%

old shadowform physical mitigation: 46.3908%

new shadowform spell and bleed mitigation: 0%

new shadowform physical mitigation: 48.3705%

physical mitigation increase for new shadowform: 3.6929%


TL;DR: In PvP, shadow priests will take ~3.7% less direct physical damage, 15% more bleed damage, and 15% more spell damage with the current version of shadowform on PTR.

there are some big changes in 5.4 so we have to see how everything is gonna be look like.

at least in the current state of the game, with this change, shadow priest would be completly dead
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#35 Nerdstomperr

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Posted 22 June 2013 - 02:04 AM

about time a cloth class wont beable to out tank plate armor oh wait they do that now on live
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#36 kannetixx

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Posted 22 June 2013 - 02:16 AM

about time a cloth class wont beable to out tank plate armor oh wait they do that now on live


can we just revert the class forum change please?

play a shadowpriest before you make statements like that.. hell play a cloth class vs melee before you say something like that.
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Posted 22 June 2013 - 07:20 AM

about time a cloth class wont beable to out tank plate armor oh wait they do that now on live

This post gave me cancer.
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Posted 22 June 2013 - 07:21 AM

about time a cloth class wont beable to out tank plate armor oh wait they do that now on live


excuse me?
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Posted 22 June 2013 - 07:31 AM

I like the idea of spriests taking less physical damage but more spell damage seeing how match ups like Godcomp vs. Godcomp took extremely long.
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Posted 22 June 2013 - 07:52 AM

It just seems like an unjustified nerf, spriests have been getting huge defensive nerfs since the start of the Xpac I think its time the class got some compensation for it before they really go over the top with nerfs.
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