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#21 Bracketx

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 12:30 PM

View Posthary86, on 14 June 2013 - 08:05 AM, said:

OMFG, how can you even comapre ERW to stuff like Readiness/Preparation?.. -.-' It doesnt reset cd od your: Piilar of frost/IBF/Lichbourne/AMZ/AMS/Strangulate etc. so what is your point? Almost all classes that have resouce system different from mana, have skill like ERW, that generates extra rage/energy, so its nothing special, realy.

Did you really make an account just to tell me that?

ERW allows for a potential four (does it still go up to six, I haven't played in a few months) stack of Necrotics, in addition to giving 25 runic power. That's equivalent, and in some situations even better than, to anything a rogue, mage or hunter can do offensively. In tight situations I have even popped defensively just for a quick extra Death Coil heal (Horn of Winter + Empower Rune Weapon) and it has saved me.

Edited by Bracketx, 14 June 2013 - 12:30 PM.


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Posted 14 June 2013 - 01:29 PM

ERW is probably just as good if not better than some of the reset abilities in this game.

If you use it together with full BT stacks you can chain 6 necrotics and then you have a shitload of RP to spend which gives even more BT stacks = necrotics.

And for Frost you can chain 5 Obliterates + 4 necrotics and then 5 Frost Strikes for even more necrotics.
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Posted 14 June 2013 - 02:06 PM

When doing 2's as UH DK  I can't seem to get the hang of the rotation. Is my Rune reg low cause its seems like necrotic will run out before I can re-apply them Or am i just managing my CD's abit sloppy ?

Unholy Frenzy goes on the gargoyle or onto me before I summon it?
And does anyone have a decent gargoyle macro that would use my Blood Fury / Unholy Frenzy and then summon pet
I'll provide a Armory link down below. I'm obviously not fully geared or enchanted / socketed properly - that I know.

http://eu.battle.net.../Slamdog/simple

#24 Aspira

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 02:13 PM

View PostMaso-eu, on 14 June 2013 - 02:06 PM, said:

When doing 2's as UH DK  I can't seem to get the hang of the rotation. Is my Rune reg low cause its seems like necrotic will run out before I can re-apply them Or am i just managing my CD's abit sloppy ?

Unholy Frenzy goes on the gargoyle or onto me before I summon it?
And does anyone have a decent gargoyle macro that would use my Blood Fury / Unholy Frenzy and then summon pet
I'll provide a Armory link down below. I'm obviously not fully geared or enchanted / socketed properly - that I know.

http://eu.battle.net.../Slamdog/simple

I imagine
/cast Blood Fury
/cast Unholy Frenzy
/cast Summon Gargoyle
would work but keep in mind Gargoyle requires a target while the other two don't. Unholy Frenzy goes on you generally. Your Haste is a bit low but that's mostly due to having low ilevel gear, your hit and expertise are over-cap too. Saving a charge of Blood Tap to make sure your Necro stack doesn't fall off might be good while you still have low Haste.

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 05:52 PM

Yeah I know i've got much hit and expertise but like i said. I haven't been bothered to reforge or gem my gear the proper way cause I felt it would be meaningless since I still need a few more off-sets etc.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 05:33 PM

so now i have like 490 ilvl and playing arenas all day .. the thing is i cant hit more like 1800 rating .. im stucked at 1800 .. what is best/easiest combo with dk in 2s?

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 05:56 PM

DK/Holy Pala or DK/MW Monk.
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Posted 21 June 2013 - 06:24 PM

View PostCloysterz, on 08 June 2013 - 07:26 PM, said:

and if u know any helpful tricks/suggestions would be good

Play bm hunter , ele shaman , disc priest or ret paladin and if some miracle happens and they hotfix all those specs in next few days make sure you have a spare mage ready to faceroll
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Posted 28 June 2013 - 05:32 PM

View PostForumz, on 21 June 2013 - 05:56 PM, said:

DK/Holy Pala or DK/MW Monk.

Dk mw is kinda bad since you have so low cc thats not even fun. It will be hard for you to die and even harder for ur monk to die ,but with so little cc on their healer its impossible to get a kill. You cant even playing asphyx cause it shares dmr with the monks stun....

View Postsarma, on 21 June 2013 - 06:24 PM, said:

Play bm hunter , ele shaman , disc priest or ret paladin and if some miracle happens and they hotfix all those specs in next few days make sure you have a spare mage ready to faceroll

Dont forget hunter.

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 06:01 PM

Since when do you need outside CC to kill a healer as DK though? Strang into Gnaw is more than enough to force major cds every time. As Frost, Strang is enough.

(and MW can (and should) spec LS which is basically a HoJ)
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Posted 06 July 2013 - 11:44 PM

View PostCloysterz, on 21 June 2013 - 05:33 PM, said:

so now i have like 490 ilvl and playing arenas all day .. the thing is i cant hit more like 1800 rating .. im stucked at 1800 .. what is best/easiest combo with dk in 2s?
right now i got 1950 in 3s .. last days i was trying frost and im excited .. then i saw zukgee on armory and he is frost as well .. can be frost viable at hight ratings? or frost only in 3s and unholy in 2s?

#32 Richie311

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 08:48 PM

Was watching Serenia last night streaming. Frost is def viable.
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Posted 10 July 2013 - 10:03 AM

Frost and Unholy both work well. They're closer to the same level in 2v2. In 3v3 I'd say Unholy is better, but not by miles.

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2 losses to disc/rogue (we messed up)
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1 loss to... I can't remember. Something.

Frost is definately viable. Most of our games we win within the first minute. Pala uses HoJ when I get KM proc I pop everything force all defensives on enemy healer repeat when HoJ is back up. This was the Paladin's first night of ever playing holy in PvP as well. A testament to how dumb dk/hpala is.

I haven't played enough Frost in 3v3 to make a good judgement there. I feel like Unholy is stronger though.
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Posted 14 July 2013 - 07:06 AM

some macro here

#showtooltip summon gargoyle
/cast unholy frenzy
/cast 14
/cast blood fury
/cast 10
/cast summon gargoyle


#showtooltip death pact
/cast raise dead
/cast death pact


#showtooltip Lichborne
/cast Lichborne
/cast [@Gabbynator] Death Coil
/cancelaura [mod:alt]Lichborne

/tar arena1 to /tar arena5 and in 5.4 you didnt to worry about it anymore they add keybind for enemy arena frame


#showtooltip soul reaper
/cast [nomodifier] necrotic strike ; [modifier:alt] soul reaper
/cast blood tap


#showtooltip Dark Simulacrum
/cast [target=focus] Dark Simulacrum


#showtooltip outbreak
/cast [nomodifier] outbreak ; [modifier:alt] gnaw


#showtooltip blood boil
/cast blood boil
/startattack

also some trick here your glove give 10 runic power when you cast chains of ice so you can spamm it and heal with your lichborne on
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#35 helpx

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 12:00 PM

Frost is not comparable to unholy in 2s no, and disc/dk is the best 2s setup for dk.

Edited by Andylulz, 21 July 2013 - 12:01 PM.


#36 zuludead

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Posted 02 September 2013 - 06:59 PM

Is macroing bloodtap in with necrotic strike the best way to use blood tap?

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Posted 02 September 2013 - 10:02 PM

The point of getting Blood Tap is so you get to control your regen, I don't get why people feel the need to make it random again by macroing it into spells.
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Posted 02 September 2013 - 11:43 PM

I'm just trying to optimize my dk macros.  Do you have petattack separate too?

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Posted 02 September 2013 - 11:49 PM

I do, actually. Where are you going with this? Macroing Blood Tap to your abilities is far from optimizing. It's basically taking away the only good thing about the talent: the control. If you want constant pressure you shouldn't run BT, use RE or RC instead. (RE requires you to game the runes though, wouldn't recommend it for someone who wants to ''optimize'')

And yes I'm being really passive agressive right now, guess what, it's because of people like you.
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Posted 03 September 2013 - 12:04 PM

View PostForumz, on 02 September 2013 - 11:49 PM, said:


And yes I'm being really passive agressive right now, guess what, it's because of people like you.

What do you mean by this?  I'm very new and have been reading quite a bit on the forums.  I'm a bit overwhelmed by all the necessary bindings and macros and pet control, but I think I will get used to it.  I'm trying to find out what people are doing to make sure I'm not making things too complicated.




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