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#1 Zilea

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 08:41 AM

Wanted to ask what everyone's experience has been so far in patch 5.3 and what class do you think is over the top?

I'll start it off with a nice video to get it rolling! EDIT: don't forget to change the video quality to 720p!


Edited by Zilea, 29 May 2013 - 08:42 AM.


#2 Djandawg

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 08:46 AM

View PostZilea, on 29 May 2013 - 08:41 AM, said:

what class do you think is over the top?

You are playing with two of them in that video.

Edited by Djandawg, 29 May 2013 - 08:48 AM.


#3 Braindance

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 08:51 AM

  • Hunters casually cleaving down 2 people at the same time in mere seconds
  • Ferals
  • Rets during cds - but only slightly. A small nerf would be nice
  • Enhancement during cds LOL warrior 5.1 level
  • Elemental dmg
  • Dk pressure
  • Affliction seems really good, destro is decent
  • Mages seem strong but not that op
  • Druids are fine
  • Disc is good
  • MW monks seem way better now and so do dps monks
  • Resto shamans are good
  • Holy paladins need some kind of buffs
  • Rogues need some kid of buff
All in all, this is one of the most balances patches ever, although some outliers have to be trimmed, mainly hunters

View Postjustchecking, on 10 November 2014 - 11:58 PM, said:

Going to blizzcon looking for a fight is like going to the official wow arena forums for pvp advice :)

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

#4 Khryl

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 08:54 AM

Looks like you got.....  outplayed.

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#5 Furioni

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 09:15 AM

View PostDjandawg, on 29 May 2013 - 08:46 AM, said:

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You are playing with two of them in that video.
ferals hunters rets are top dog ele in there too i guess

Edited by Furioni, 29 May 2013 - 09:16 AM.

View PostRamboJohny, on 27 February 2013 - 08:09 PM, said:

Grow some balls and come get slained and stick the 5's bracket.
  -RamboJohny

#6 Hiddenstalke

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 09:19 AM

You know ... you had to trinket the last second of silence!


Edit: I'm bit disappointed - i expected the hunter to 2v3 afterwards :(

Edited by Hiddenstalke, 29 May 2013 - 09:21 AM.

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#7 AndrewB

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 09:22 AM

View PostKhryl, on 29 May 2013 - 08:54 AM, said:

Looks like you got.....  outplayed.

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xD

#8 Marshmellow

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 09:24 AM

This patch is pretty balanced imo, every classes' damage is just too high with cds up and it needs to be changed, Enhance. ret, hunter, dk, ele shaman, WW monk, feral druid do too much damage with shit popped

Edit: why does nearly every class have a rediculous damage modifier ability? I get 53% increased damage with 10 Tigerseye brews popped, ferals have a 40% damage modifier they can keep 100% uptime on, rets have a 30% they can keep 100% uptime on, mages have a 15% they can keep nearly 100% uptime on, they should look into replacing the damage percentage of these into resource generation or a secondary stat instead of a just flat damage increase.

Edited by Marshmellow, 29 May 2013 - 09:30 AM.

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#9 Gsgsgsgsgs

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 09:25 AM

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I just got outplayed.

#10 Eveny

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 09:28 AM

I think lock is the most balanced class atm : D

also song name please? xD

Edited by Eveny, 29 May 2013 - 09:29 AM.

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#11 AndrewB

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 09:31 AM

That kind of burst isn't really out of the norm for most classes when you stack procs.

#12 Miluu

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 09:50 AM

its just ele shaman in my opinion...

#13 Dreamex

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 10:49 AM

The fact that zilea talason and veevs hunter are almost rank 1 on BG9 when veev has close to zero experience on a hunter just shows how much of a joke these classes are. The way they play is even more of a joke, pop every CD (including BW for the damage) in the opener and spam damage, rarely landing traps, not that they are needed. Nothing against them, this is sadly the best way to play. Though it does make me laugh when they complain on stream about casters occasionally globaling them when most games they're usually just tunnelling unhealable damage into the casters.

On other BGs, there really aren't many caster cleaves at all, everything consists of hunters and melee  who mongo everything in the opener and make the game awful to play. Bloodlust seems to have slightly more non melee since there's a small group of casters there who just que into each other on stream every single day.

If hunter + feral + enhance + ret (with cds) + ele got toned down slightly this patch would be a lot better.

Edited by Dreamex, 29 May 2013 - 10:50 AM.


#14 pyrellael_3428244

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 11:04 AM

View PostEveny, on 29 May 2013 - 09:28 AM, said:

I think lock is the most balanced class atm : D

also song name please? xD
Now if only every cleave didn't kill me through all my defensives stacked while i'm in spirit link totem I'd agree

#15 Daisyduke

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 11:25 AM

Ele is close to s8 but with infinite mana
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Posted 29 May 2013 - 11:26 AM

View PostBraindance, on 29 May 2013 - 08:51 AM, said:

  • Hunters casually cleaving down 2 people at the same time in mere seconds

  • Ferals

  • Rets during cds - but only slightly. A small nerf would be nice

  • Enhancement during cds LOL warrior 5.1 level

  • Elemental dmg

  • Dk pressure

  • Affliction seems really good, destro is decent

  • Mages seem strong but not that op

  • Druids are fine

  • Disc is good

  • MW monks seem way better now and so do dps monks

  • Resto shamans are good

  • Holy paladins need some kind of buffs

  • Rogues need some kid of buff
All in all, this is one of the most balances patches ever, although some outliers have to be trimmed, mainly hunters

Agree with all of this, but don't buff rogue dmg... making step reset on cd and cd lowered to 18 or 20 seconds would make them perfectly fine tbh.

#17 TteSPORTSDoomsen

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 11:28 AM

View PostGsgsgsgsgs, on 29 May 2013 - 09:25 AM, said:

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I just got outplayed.
Can't believe that your Rejuvenation couldn't outheal that damage.

Edited by TteSPORTSDoomsen, 29 May 2013 - 11:28 AM.


#18 Icekingx

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:53 PM

I'm not going to lie saw a thread that said "one shots" and it was posted by Zilea thought he would be the 1 getting 1 shot...

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#19 Snuggli

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 02:07 PM

Only real class that seems stupidly above the rest (as seen in the video) is Ele for me. Show your face for 2 globals and you're randomly on 20-30%. Ascendance damage is fucking stupid (although really easily to avoid from an Ele).

Hunters still seem a little overtuned. Healers overall seem a little bit shit. Had a couple of kills just from damage rather than any setup or burst.

View PostBraindance, on 11 October 2013 - 12:44 PM, said:

Go listen to some Bieber shit and leave me alone fucko.

#20 Chazzwozzer

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 02:15 PM

View PostDreamex, on 29 May 2013 - 10:49 AM, said:

The fact that zilea talason and veevs hunter are almost rank 1 on BG9 when veev has close to zero experience on a hunter just shows how much of a joke these classes are. The way they play is even more of a joke, pop every CD (including BW for the damage) in the opener and spam damage, rarely landing traps, not that they are needed. Nothing against them, this is sadly the best way to play. Though it does make me laugh when they complain on stream about casters occasionally globaling them when most games they're usually just tunnelling unhealable damage into the casters.

On other BGs, there really aren't many caster cleaves at all, everything consists of hunters and melee  who mongo everything in the opener and make the game awful to play. Bloodlust seems to have slightly more non melee since there's a small group of casters there who just que into each other on stream every single day.

If hunter + feral + enhance + ret (with cds) + ele got toned down slightly this patch would be a lot better.

Agreed with everything said here.  Hunter plus hybrid melee comps are clearly too good right now and need to be toned down.  After that, elemental burst needs to be toned down.  After playing a little ele this season, it's obvious that there is a problem when enemies just randomly die because I get a couple consecutive lava surge procs.  As silly as ele burst may be though, I find playing against hunter + enh/feral/ret to be much more difficult than ele comps, but perhaps that is because there aren't many ele's queuing on my ladder.




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