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#1 AcerMVP

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 08:45 PM

How to play Mutilate rogue in 5.3

There are a few of you asking me questions in my inbox, in-game and here on AJ. These questions include: "What rotations do you do?, What poisons do you use? Why this over this?" And so on. Here is a general guide on how I, Mvp the rogue plays mutilate. You may change any of the suggestions I have made to better fit your play style or hear your responses in regards to my guide. I understand a lot of you think that Sub is the best for PVP because of all the control you have. While this is some what true, Mut also has it's amazing advantages.

A lot of players haven't played mutilate in arenas because they have not figured out on how to play it. Here are the main points I will be making in this guide:

1) Talent Specialization
2) Glyphs
3) Poisons
4) Gems/Reforging/Enchanting
5) Rotations



1) Talent Specialization:
Talent Specialization is something that anybody can make up to their own style/spec. It gives you the freedom of changing what is needed before the arena starts due to certain comps. Here is a quick talent tree of what I am using: http://www.wowhead.c...talent#r!md|Isu



Well, it was a quick and short guide on how to play assassination in my eyes, but so far it's been the best playstyle(2300 in 3's, but I barely play the team and I'm trying to find a new comp to play for shits and giggles). You can take this guide and change anything you like to your playstyle, but this is mostly for more beginner mutilate players. I've played Sub and Mutilate during most of my seasons, but I prefer to just stick to Mut these next few seasons. Kind of tired of playing Sub, but if you have any questions, please feel free to ask. I hope I make sense, I normally visit AJ during work, so this guide was written during my work hours ^^;

Edited by AcerMVP, 06 June 2013 - 03:50 AM.


#2 Kyparnxoxo

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 09:10 PM

Awesome guide dude! +1 rep

#3 AcerMVP

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 09:16 PM

View Posthairpiece, on 28 May 2013 - 09:08 PM, said:

you must be stuck in wrath.


How is the current assasination playstyle (a lot more involved mind you) more boring than restealthing as sub all game, and doing nothing outside of dance.


rofl



Also, great guide.  Easy to read.

The playstyle of assassination is way more fun than sub, because you actually do damage. Even with out having to burst all the time, the amount of damage pressure you can do is amazing.

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 09:34 PM

So you want 0 mobility outside of stealth?
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Posted 28 May 2013 - 09:45 PM

View PostEazymothafukne, on 28 May 2013 - 09:34 PM, said:

So you want 0 mobility outside of stealth?

You have plenty of mobility, Sprint, CoS, Vanish, Prep? Not only that, you also have your healer which usually can dispel any kind of anti-mobility. It's easy, ask for a dispel, if you're not asking or saying things to your partner, then why are you playing arena? Arena is all about communicating with your partners as well.

Edited by AcerMVP, 28 May 2013 - 09:45 PM.


#6 Saru93

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 09:47 PM

Never thought Mutilate would be a thing in MoP. Great guide !

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 09:59 PM

View PostEazymothafukne, on 28 May 2013 - 09:34 PM, said:

So you want 0 mobility outside of stealth?

Are you literally illiterate? He explains how he gets mobility.

P.S. good guide

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 10:33 PM

good guide, would love to see some mutilate 3's gamsplay
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Posted 28 May 2013 - 11:07 PM

Nice thread, but do you spread dots even vs priest teams? Just curious as I havent tried it -- I wondered how it would function with pom bouncing to the last tick. I was just wondering if that healing was negligible in the grand scheme of the match.

Edited by Bigpapapump, 28 May 2013 - 11:09 PM.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 12:20 AM

good guide

Edited by Zerlog, 02 June 2013 - 07:02 PM.


#11 TteSPORTSDoomsen

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 12:54 AM

Would have never thought that I would ever read a helpful post from you, you proofed me wrong. good job with this guide.

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:14 AM

View PostAcerMVP, on 28 May 2013 - 09:16 PM, said:

The playstyle of assassination is way more fun than sub, because you actually do damage. Even with out having to burst all the time, the amount of damage pressure you can do is amazing.

sounds a lot more fun.  I've always liked playstyles that are about damage outside of cd's, etc.  Sustained and setup is so much more fun to me.

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 04:45 AM

Thanks for all the input; I've had a few more questions in my inbox after this and will update the guide according to the questions. I may have missed a few things that I want to add/edit.

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 07:15 AM

Just wanted to add that the increased poisen proc chance after each Envenom makes Paralytic Poison really superb for mutilate, not to mention that Prey on the Weak is less significant then it would be for Sub seeing as the entire spec is less bursty anyways.

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 09:31 AM

nicely written guide! this is exactly the type of thread AJ needs more off :)


View PostRalffi, on 29 May 2013 - 07:15 AM, said:

Just wanted to add that the increased poisen proc chance after each Envenom makes Paralytic Poison really superb for mutilate, not to mention that Prey on the Weak is less significant then it would be for Sub seeing as the entire spec is less bursty anyways.

The idea of prey on the weak is for 3s to boost your partners damage, not so much for personal gain, PotW and tricks is quite a substantial damage boost.  Personally I do like Paralytic for muti, the shiv root is great for peeling and you do get a lot of stun procs thanks to the envenom buff.

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 10:59 AM

View PostGalaleo, on 28 May 2013 - 09:59 PM, said:

Are you literally illiterate? He explains how he gets mobility.

P.S. good guide

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 11:17 AM

View PostZerlog, on 29 May 2013 - 12:20 AM, said:

If a rogue is allowed to do more dmg then an affli lock with dots, this game is broken, nerf rogues again please...

fuck off

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 11:20 AM

Great guide. Well done. Will try that soon.

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 11:40 AM

Regemmed to full mastery currently sitting on 84.73%, did a few 2s and been spamming BGs with it.

the damage output is insane, with multi rupturing you can keep a whole team pretty low without blowing any major cds, One thing I did notice is that when you garrote several targets from stealth it wont always trigger venomous wounds.  VW only procs on targets that you have poisoned and when garroting several targets in subterfuge deadly poison does not always apply :(

Overall it feels like playing an unholy dk, lots of spread pressure from dots and a big burst cd every 2 mins.  Its pretty good!

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 12:40 PM

2s was sick with a healer. I feel like a real class playing rogue now. I can see how some teams will shut you down but it is nice to do sustained damage. I think the biggist plus to this is sub was SOOOO boring.





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