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#1 Mardz

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Posted 25 May 2013 - 03:53 AM

Hello.

Was wondering what's best to socket as destro in 5.3? Noticed that most locks go for full mastery gems now, but wasn't sure if it's for affly only, or for all 3 specs. And how would full intel gems (or some mix of intel and mastery gems to get socket bonuses) do vs full mastery as destro?

Also, what do you mostly reforge as destro, and how's pvp on use trinket vs some pve trinket, for example Shado-Pan Assault reputation one? I think that pvp on use trinket is still really good mix with Dark Soul for high burst nukes, especially because you can time it.

Edited by Mardz, 25 May 2013 - 03:55 AM.


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Posted 25 May 2013 - 04:09 AM

mastery gems > affli, most ppl have 2 sets i guess, one for affli 1 for destro

not sure about destro reforge, but i guess crit, cause the more crit the bigger chaos bolt?

#3 Mardz

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Posted 25 May 2013 - 04:53 AM

No, mastery reforge is better than crit for destro too. But I meant overall if reforging changed in 5.3 (for example, are ppl going for crit or haste, after mastery, as 2nd reforge stat) and which gems/trinkets are best to use atm.

Edited by Mardz, 25 May 2013 - 04:56 AM.


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Posted 25 May 2013 - 11:49 AM

I use same reforge for destro and affli, mastery>haste>crit. You get more embers overall that way while still doing significant damage.

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Posted 25 May 2013 - 01:00 PM

not really on topic but chaos bolt doesn't seem to scale with pvp power since 5.3
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Posted 25 May 2013 - 02:19 PM

View Postdreschnuu99, on 25 May 2013 - 01:00 PM, said:

not really on topic but chaos bolt doesn't seem to scale with pvp power since 5.3
dem classic bugs one every patch is released , x doesnt scale with this , x doesnt scale with that :P

#7 Pritchard

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Posted 25 May 2013 - 02:22 PM

the unnering vision of Lei-shen is, imo, really really good for Destro now.  been playing around with it lately, it procs a decent amount, and as of the patch the effect is halved but duration doubled, so you get 8 seconds of +50% crit.  it adds crazy burst if you pop Dark Soul and get 2-3 chaos bolts off during it.
edit:  its also pretty good if you can get an immolate up during the buff, adds really good ember generation

Edited by hairpiece, 25 May 2013 - 02:30 PM.


#8 Mardz

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Posted 25 May 2013 - 08:18 PM

And which gems should be best for destro atm? Full intel, full mastery or some mix of intel/mastery to get some socket bonuses?

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Posted 26 May 2013 - 06:46 AM

View Postdreschnuu99, on 25 May 2013 - 01:00 PM, said:

not really on topic but chaos bolt doesn't seem to scale with pvp power since 5.3

Yeah I noticed that Chaos Bolt is dealing ALOT less damage than prepatch, was like wtf

View PostBraindance, on 22 June 2013 - 07:05 AM, said:

The current season is at a very good spot balance-wise. There is a comp variety that hasn't been seen in the game since s8.

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Posted 26 May 2013 - 09:22 AM

View PostPersephones, on 26 May 2013 - 06:46 AM, said:

Yeah I noticed that Chaos Bolt is dealing ALOT less damage than prepatch, was like wtf
Yah, chaos bolt really hits like a wet dick now..  conflag crits harder than a non darksoul chaos bolt half the time
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#11 Zeffer

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Posted 26 May 2013 - 11:15 AM

Nobody trying haste as afli? 21.62% haste atm with full gems etc. like 9% more haste for 12% less dot dmg. Faster +more ticks, more nightfall procs, faster everything. I havent tried mastery yet but I'm loving haste

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Posted 26 May 2013 - 05:22 PM

Red= 80 intel/160 mastery
Yellow= 320 mastery
Blue=160 hit/160 mastery

ignore bonus on pants and get 2x 320 mastery

Reforge all to mastery>haste>crit or if you dont plan to play afflic at all mastery>crit>haste

As for meta i am not sure if pvp is better than 216/3% crit

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 04:13 PM

For everyone touting mastery as the best thing for destro, can I ask where you guys get your numbers from?  I'm honestly curious as I've scoured google looking for some sort of simulation for damage.

From what I've seen, int gemming is slightly better for destro, changing my gems around for more int gave me more damage on literally everything except chaos bolt (where it gave less) and it also lowered how much health I got from ember tap.  Conflag, fel flame, immolate, incinerate, etc all had damage increase slightly overall from going mastery -> int whereas chaos bolt damage went down slightly.

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 01:28 AM

So CB still bugged? Mine's hitting for dog dick.

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 01:52 AM

View PostTattertotts, on 27 May 2013 - 04:13 PM, said:

For everyone touting mastery as the best thing for destro, can I ask where you guys get your numbers from?  I'm honestly curious as I've scoured google looking for some sort of simulation for damage.

From what I've seen, int gemming is slightly better for destro, changing my gems around for more int gave me more damage on literally everything except chaos bolt (where it gave less) and it also lowered how much health I got from ember tap.  Conflag, fel flame, immolate, incinerate, etc all had damage increase slightly overall from going mastery -> int whereas chaos bolt damage went down slightly.

Int is better for overall PVE damage.

PVP destro is more about chaos bolt/shadowburn burst kills and healing with ember tap, all of which are boosted more by mastery. So its more of a personal preference I guess.

Edited by Dreamex, 28 May 2013 - 02:13 AM.


#16 Mitoo

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 06:48 AM

View PostTattertotts, on 27 May 2013 - 04:13 PM, said:

For everyone touting mastery as the best thing for destro, can I ask where you guys get your numbers from?  I'm honestly curious as I've scoured google looking for some sort of simulation for damage.

From what I've seen, int gemming is slightly better for destro, changing my gems around for more int gave me more damage on literally everything except chaos bolt (where it gave less) and it also lowered how much health I got from ember tap.  Conflag, fel flame, immolate, incinerate, etc all had damage increase slightly overall from going mastery -> int whereas chaos bolt damage went down slightly.

There is a thread somewhere here in lock forums, from Veev that made gem calculations, where mastery is best for both affliction and destro. I am to laisy to look, sorry.

Since I started to play warlock only from this season, I find that its easier for me to just trust what players, who play it for long and successful, say.

So if your in doubt just look what Nadagast, Chanimal, Veev and the players like them gem/reforge and your fine :)

#17 Mardz

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 08:15 AM

Well those players are mostly in affly spec and prolly in affly gear on armory. Some of them use same gear for both specs, but some of them got different gear for each spec, so you can't always know if their gear, that's on armory when you check, is gemmed for both specs or just for one.

#18 Mitoo

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 08:42 AM

Use deduction :)

Just gem like i wrote in my first post and you will be more than fine

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 10:33 AM

Destro ofc... gem/reforge mastery.. end of story




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