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#1 Feliclandelo

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 01:48 PM

I thought we needed a thread to discuss the value of pvp power vs. int (and agi for that sake).

Currently 320 pvp power is better than 160 int for balance, but for resto 160 int was superior. PvP power is being buffed for healing, so does that make a difference? And the nerf to the damage, will that mean 160 int because better for balance?

If anyone has done any kind of testing with replacing gems on the PTR, let me know. Fellow cats can join in aswell.
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#2 Marshmellow

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 01:53 PM

From what I've heard Main stats (int,str,agi) and secondary stats (crit,mastery,spirit,haste,) are worth gemming over pvp power/ resil
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Posted 21 May 2013 - 01:53 PM

I guess we'll generally still stick to stacking as much Resilience as we can. But yeah it'd be nice to know for the Blue gems to know what is more benefiting.

Edit: Haven't really read that much about 5.3 in the first place and realized afterwards that the Resilience part I was talking about is rubbish since of the 65% base resilience being added.

Edited by TteSPORTSDoomsen, 21 May 2013 - 04:45 PM.

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#4 Feliclandelo

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 02:03 PM

Well didn't resilience gems became worse with the patch? I read that Veex said they reduced the stats on the mystic pvp gems, and considering damage is going down by 15%, more healing output might mean more survivability (considering we always have 1-2 hots up before being swapped to as resto).

Btw please remember to state what spec you are refering to.

Edit: resilience gems now offer +160 resilience. Fuck knows, stamina might be better then even.

Edited by Feliclandelo, 21 May 2013 - 02:06 PM.

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 02:26 PM

Im pretty sure crit will be superior in 5.3 for gemming for boomkins. And then int.

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 02:49 PM

Im pretty sure crit will be superior in 5.3 for gemming for boomkins. And then int.


Lmao you're the guy playing those mongo setups :D What are you going to do when 5.3 hits ?

But yeah 320 crit in yellow sockets and 80 int 160 crit in red/yellow. PvP Power in blue?
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Posted 21 May 2013 - 03:09 PM

Lmao you're the guy playing those mongo setups :D What are you going to do when 5.3 hits ?

But yeah 320 crit in yellow sockets and 80 int 160 crit in red/yellow. PvP Power in blue?


im gonna continue raping the shit out of everyone with my awesome pve rotation :duckers:

also either pvp power, spirit / int gems or maybe just pure crit gems in blue.
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Posted 21 May 2013 - 03:09 PM

Well didn't resilience gems became worse with the patch? I read that Veex said they reduced the stats on the mystic pvp gems, and considering damage is going down by 15%, more healing output might mean more survivability (considering we always have 1-2 hots up before being swapped to as resto).

Btw please remember to state what spec you are refering to.

Edit: resilience gems now offer +160 resilience. Fuck knows, stamina might be better then even.


Since the values are the same for every class, this might help.
Mystic Sun's Radiance in every socket on the ptr, resi on chest. Missing belt buckle, no tyrannical meta, not a blacksmith. Tyrannical weapon enchant does not grant resilience anymore.

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 03:15 PM

Since the values are the same for every class, this might help.
Mystic Sun's Radiance in every socket on the ptr, resi on chest. Missing belt buckle, no tyrannical meta, not a blacksmith. Tyrannical weapon enchant does not grant resilience anymore.



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Posted 21 May 2013 - 03:29 PM

Still gemming resi probably, and gemming PvP meta. I feel like my regen is slightly out of control with relic, might give a pvp trinket a whirl
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Posted 21 May 2013 - 03:34 PM

Yeah resilience is completly out of the question. Gemming full sockets for 2,5%, I would think even gemming stamina would be better for survivability.

I don't think 80 int / 160 spirit is worth it vs. 320 PvP power as balance, if you can get the spirit from using a few resto offpieces.

Still gemming resi probably, and gemming PvP meta. I feel like my regen is slightly out of control with relic, might give a pvp trinket a whirl


I will run with the Valor points one. You gain 12 iLvls and you can macro it into innervate. More passive intellect too.

Edited by Feliclandelo, 21 May 2013 - 03:35 PM.

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 04:00 PM

Guess I have to do lfr now since 2piece pve(10 percent more crit on starsurge) >>> 4piece pvp
Or does the 1K resilience from pvp set stay?
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Posted 21 May 2013 - 04:05 PM

The 1k resilience got changed to 1k pvp power.
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Posted 21 May 2013 - 04:13 PM

320 pvp power doesn't exist on PTR. It's 160 now.
I don't remember going oom ever as resto unless 15 min wizard mirror and resil gemming is bs. So I won't ever gem for spirit or resil.
I'll gem pvp power + int on blue gems since they usually grant 60 intellect bonus.
For yellow it's going to int + secondary stat, whatever they post on PVE forums that is lol.

Edited by Djandawg, 21 May 2013 - 04:16 PM.

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#15 Feliclandelo

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 04:13 PM

Guess I have to do lfr now since 2piece pve(10 percent more crit on starsurge) >>> 4piece pvp
Or does the 1K resilience from pvp set stay?


http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=94412

I don't think the PvE pieces will be worth a lot, honestly. 10% crit on starsuge might be good, but you're losing 1000 PvP Power and you will be stuck outside eclips for a long time when you're being attacked by melee's and such.

320 pvp power doesn't exist on PTR. It's 160 now.
I don't remember going oom ever as resto unless 15 min wizard mirror and resil gemming is bs. So I won't ever gem for spirit or resil.
I'll gem pvp power + int on blue gems since they usually grant 60 intellect bonus.


What gem is this?

Edited by Feliclandelo, 21 May 2013 - 04:14 PM.

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 04:20 PM

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 04:21 PM

http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=94412

I don't think the PvE pieces will be worth a lot, honestly. 10% crit on starsuge might be good, but you're losing 1000 PvP Power and you will be stuck outside eclips for a long time when you're being attacked by melee's and such.


It might be worth it since it takes roughly 44% more pvp power to get the same effect as in 5.2. So that 1000 pvp power on the pvp set will only be 2.5% pvp power instead of being 3.77% pvp power. I think the 10% crit on starsurge would outweigh the extra 2.5% pvp power.
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#18 Feliclandelo

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 04:24 PM

Remember to factor in the extra PvP power on the 2 pieces you replace aswell. You cant replace gloves for the range on cyclone. However if you can find some pieces with good stats, maybe it will be worth it.
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Posted 21 May 2013 - 04:30 PM

Remember to factor in the extra PvP power on the 2 pieces you replace aswell. You cant replace gloves for the range on cyclone. However if you can find some pieces with good stats, maybe it will be worth it.


Very true. I didn't factor in the extra pvp power, and you are absolutely right about the gloves. I think it just comes down to personal preference - more sustained dmg or bigger burst on starsurges.
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Posted 21 May 2013 - 09:55 PM

uhhh, throughput is total garbo. pve trinket + int/ pvp power in red , pvp power in blue and who the fuck knows in yellow... i guess?

Edited by boomroasted, 21 May 2013 - 10:07 PM.

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