kinda tired while writing this so feel free to correct/bash or whatever
Sabyth, on 14 May 2013 - 10:04 PM, said:
Huge Ascendance Nerf.
If it hit for 90k now then you did 60k/sec
It'll hit for 112.5k in 5.3 but 2sec cast time so 56,250k/sec
Bad numbers but it's a damage nerf obviously. But more importantly you have to get a 2 second cast off, and since it's a short duration they have to stop casting on it's a LOT easier to stop in it's entirety.
Unless you're a Troll or something and can hit over 80% Haste it's a bad change for Ascendance. Even at 1.2 cast time it barely breaks even for damage output and you're having to cast more.
Can always spread FS and get lucky big number chain procs though. So nice change there.
you need to factor in lava surge procs if you're gonna put it like that. cause while its true if you had to cast every single lava burst its a nerf. but you wont go a full ascendance without a proc. And its a buff to those procs. if i just assume your numbers are correct and you'd have 5 flame shock ticks with flame shock on 1 target in the 15sec ascendance is up. thats 1 instant lava burst @ 112.5k average. thats a 7.5k dps increase and would actually put it slightly above the dps on live. blah blah you lose a gcd then blah blah. yes but you'd still get the same amount of casted lava bursts cause you'd just finish the last one while ascendance fades as far as i can tell. and every extra flame shock you have up increases the dmg difference from live. I personally have atleast 3 flame shocks rolling at most times so it'll definently add up. It does make ascendance easier to peel as you said though which is meh as its not hard as it is
Mattadoro, on 14 May 2013 - 09:58 PM, said:
Unleashed fury as the final talent makes it hit 10% harder for the entire ascendance, which ive used at 2300+ and had great results and it adds 20% more dmg on lihgtning bolt which is buffed next patch at % faster casts and unglyphed useable while on the move. Tbh the only reason i specced back into ele blast is all the top shamans were ele blast.
unleashed fury is dispellable though but i play with a UA lock which greatly helps
and with elemental mastery before you were kind of haste capped @1 sec lava burst casts now it will be like 1.2 but they will hit so much harder
dont go elemental blast just cause everyone else does. I know zæus is doing great with unleashed fury and i swap for it vs some comps as well myself. Its not really that elemental blast is a lot better. its just more reliable burst outside ascendance. but unleashed fury has its obvious advantages as well, like sustained pressure and ascendance burst. what im trying to say is that while i personally prefer elemental blast 9/10 times its really more of a playstyle choice than anything mandatory if you're a good ele, which i assume you are. If you were bad elemental blast is superior just cause its easier to keep pressure up with and leaves more room for error vs more comps cause its easier to turn the momentum around with it
Nadagast, on 14 May 2013 - 11:04 PM, said:
Keep in mind that a very healthy amount of your lava bursts are gonna be instant cast, which is obviously not effected by an increased cast time. I'd say this is a decent buff for ele PvP.
this - though a healthy amount is kinda an understatement if you spread flame shock on 3 targets. rarely ever get to cast lava burst outside ascendance
Edited by Baht, 14 May 2013 - 11:44 PM.