Nadagast, on 15 May 2013 - 03:14 AM, said:
I think one thing that's worth noting is that mages generally are able to take advantage of procs much more than other classes. If any other caster class gets 5 procs up at the same time, they can't just deep their target and blanket the healer. I'm not saying that necessarily needs to be nerfed, just pointing it out.
I'm also gonna have to question your math... Bomb damage triples with Incanters + trinket proc + orc racial? That means it needs to do 3/1.3 = 2.3x damage before incanter's. I don't think anything but extreme trinket procs would give you 2.3x damage. You'd basically need to go from ~20k sp to ~46k sp. Maybe I'm wrong, shrug, but I don't like exaggerations like this to make your class appear weaker than it is.
it was an attempt at hyperbole but i honestly don't think it was actually hyperbolic... bomb ranges from like 60k to 180k depending on gems, procs, on use trinkets, incanter's and racials. if you go watchmeblink style with double pve trinket incanter's ward and int gems and just turtle till everything in the world is up you kill people instantly. that's both easily preventable, and totally retarded and shouldn't be possible. Both can be true. but there's tons of people here on AJ saying the same bullshit that 1500 rated players on the forums which is that you can "die every 30 seconds" which is just plainly untrue and represents and clear lack of understand for how the class works.
The level of discourse here is so low that people say blatantly untrue statements, and then when they're corrected, respond by saying that they "can't believe Mages are actually defending the class". The reality is that most of the people here are dead wrong about what the problems with the class are, and
the class is too strong in certain situations. Mages being too strong doesn't instantly validate every criticism against the class. That's just not reasonable.
Edited by affix, 15 May 2013 - 09:51 AM.