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#41 watchmepwn

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 09:52 PM

View PostHnng, on 12 May 2013 - 09:44 PM, said:

Dude.. it would ruin LFR

Simply remove the ilvl from pvp gear? Or upgrade pve ilvl's to make the gap.

#42 Syia

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 10:01 PM

Yes, let's further lower arena participation by making it so no one has to do rbgs/arenas for full gear.

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 10:04 PM

View PostSyia, on 12 May 2013 - 10:01 PM, said:

Yes, let's further lower arena participation by making it so no one has to do rbgs/arenas for full gear.
Actually, Blizzard's goal with the resil change is to get more people to do those. It's a stupid way to do it, but... that's their intent.
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Posted 12 May 2013 - 10:05 PM

View PostSyia, on 12 May 2013 - 10:01 PM, said:

Yes, let's further lower arena participation by making it so no one has to do rbgs/arenas for full gear.

It's not like people do 3s to cap anyways, they usually do 2s unless they actually like arena

#45 Mirionx

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 10:07 PM

View PostFeliclandelo, on 12 May 2013 - 09:49 PM, said:

476 honor gear won't be scaled up. PvE gear will be 496. 20 iLvls + more sockets will make more than up for it.

Well, reduced PvP gems will help with that. You will still have more PvP power then PvE gear so the gap wont be that big. Especially not since PvP power, Resil doesn't use the item budget.

#46 Selicia

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 10:09 PM

View PostMirionx, on 12 May 2013 - 10:07 PM, said:

Resil doesn't use the item budget.
Resil is no longer on PvP gear as a stat, and gemming it is practically worthless on the PTR after the gem nerfs.
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#47 Feliclandelo

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 10:13 PM

View Posthairpiece, on 12 May 2013 - 09:50 PM, said:

i tihnk the catch up system in 5.3 will be more than enough for alts.  You can get a new alt full  LFR epics in one day/week because of all the elder coins now, and you can use that gear in arena because of the resil change in 5.3.  this means winning games to get your catch up points and ultimately get tyran pieces every 7 games or so will not be that hard at all.  you could catch up an alt to mostly tyrannical in 2 days doing it like this.  I love the catch up system idea, and am somewhat glad the achievement doesn't just let you get full gear for honor.  you should play arena for your tyran gear, not afk random bg's for 5 days.

You forget the LFR gear will be less iLvl and also will force you to do dailies on several alts. We're debating PvP here. None of us wants to be forced to do LFR or PvE to get gear in order to be competitive.

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 10:18 PM

HoF/Terrace gear has higher ilvl than honor pvp gear does now.  You don't need to do dailies at all to get coins or ilvl high enough for lfr. If you want a fast way to get gear thats better than current honor gear or dreadful gear next patch, LFR is your fastest choice for alts to make things easier.


You don't need to pve to pvp, buy some dreadful gear, its more than enough to win 1300 rated 2s games to get  catch up points for tyran.



There is nothing to debate, the new catch up system is more than enough for alts, as well as your mains who might miss a week here and there.  Being able to get gear for honor on all of your alts simply because you got 27k on your main is stupid.

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 10:19 PM

View PostSelicia, on 12 May 2013 - 10:09 PM, said:

Resil is no longer on PvP gear as a stat, and gemming it is practically worthless on the PTR after the gem nerfs.

Didn't it say on "most" pvp gear not all of it? I've not checked just assumed it was still on some piece.

#50 Feliclandelo

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 10:20 PM

I'd asume they keep it on trinkets to still make it attractive.

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 10:25 PM

Theres already those who are collecting Heroic gear For then next season when the IL cap will be alot higher and make the heroic gear better.....

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 01:14 AM

View PostFeliclandelo, on 12 May 2013 - 12:59 PM, said:

Now, I can't really see the consequenses of this change, but perhaps some fellow AJ members could tell me why this might be a bad idea?

Felic

I don't think you understand just how opposite Blizzard thinks than the rest of us.

They HATE account wide anything. You're supposed to RP your characters and anything that takes away from an individual character means that people "won't be as attached to their characters."

Good luck making this happen. Obviously WE all want this, but the only one that matters (Blizzard) doesn't want it. Topic is pretty pointless, you're just preaching to a powerless echo chamber.
Bye again! This game isn't fun when you don't know anyone else that still plays.

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 04:33 AM

Blizzard have no idea how to handle PvP in WoW. It's one clumsy mistake after another.

I want to PvP in WoW, but I'm tired of their bullshit balance, terrible gear system and lack of content.

Vote with your feet because this is what the listen to.

Oh and don't forget that the upgrade system is coming back, at full price, for PvP gear.
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Posted 13 May 2013 - 04:47 AM

View PostZerlog, on 12 May 2013 - 10:25 PM, said:

Theres already those who are collecting Heroic gear For then next season when the IL cap will be alot higher and make the heroic gear better.....
You didn't understand the ilvl cap in arena etc?
heroic gear will be exactly the same as LFR gear in arena.

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 05:36 AM

View Postfant0m8, on 13 May 2013 - 01:14 AM, said:

I don't think you understand just how opposite Blizzard thinks than the rest of us.

They HATE account wide anything. You're supposed to RP your characters and anything that takes away from an individual character means that people "won't be as attached to their characters."

Good luck making this happen. Obviously WE all want this, but the only one that matters (Blizzard) doesn't want it. Topic is pretty pointless, you're just preaching to a powerless echo chamber.

True, but Blizzard know they have to start making the game better. If this keeps up in 3 years WoW has 2-3 million sub's. It would be done. And it past learned that a new expansion isn't the key.

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 05:49 AM

They are implementing a catch up system that should be more than enough. And LOL at all these people that want to FOTM reroll if they get nerfed with minimal effort.

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 05:51 AM

View PostTya, on 13 May 2013 - 04:33 AM, said:

Oh and don't forget that the upgrade system is coming back, at full price, for PvP gear.

No it isn't. It's coming back for season 12 gear, not 13.
Bye again! This game isn't fun when you don't know anyone else that still plays.

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 06:57 AM

View PostFeliclandelo, on 12 May 2013 - 10:13 PM, said:

You forget the LFR gear will be less iLvl and also will force you to do dailies on several alts. We're debating PvP here. None of us wants to be forced to do LFR or PvE to get gear in order to be competitive.
if you cant be bothered to spend two hours a week doing lfr and getting gear then i dont know what to say really


View PostWallirik, on 13 May 2013 - 04:47 AM, said:

You didn't understand the ilvl cap in arena etc?
heroic gear will be exactly the same as LFR gear in arena.
he often doesnt understand english so the ilvl cap is prolly asking a bit much

Edited by Dizzeeyo, 13 May 2013 - 06:58 AM.

View PostPouncedd, on 12 June 2014 - 01:51 AM, said:

Feel free to call me an idiot because I'm a hunter or some stupid ass remark but I've actually written all this down on paper and have looked at the numbers comparatively for almost every class

View PostJontex, on 23 June 2014 - 04:48 PM, said:

I actually made an appearance at DH2014 and I met up with people from twitch who were involved with the dota 2 / cs tournies that where there, I talked about the game from my perspective as a professional player and we actually shared a lot of opinions. All I'm saying is a lot of people will be VERY surprised about the future of this game in the esport world :)

#59 Selicia

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 07:10 AM

View PostMirionx, on 12 May 2013 - 10:19 PM, said:

Didn't it say on "most" pvp gear not all of it? I've not checked just assumed it was still on some piece.
It did, but it's in fact gone from all PvP gear. No socket bonuses give Resil anymore, nor do any pieces as a base stat. The only way to gain additional Resil are gems (including the new meta). If you go max resil you'll have about ~68.5% reduc in 5.3 I believe (that's JC/BS all pure resil + meta) I believe.
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#60 Feliclandelo

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 09:45 AM

View PostWallirik, on 13 May 2013 - 04:47 AM, said:

You didn't understand the ilvl cap in arena etc?
heroic gear will be exactly the same as LFR gear in arena.

I think he is refering to when the next season start. He / I asume that the iLvl cap will be raised, meaning heroic will will suddenly be better than 496/512 if the cap is indeed raised to 522 or so. We can only asume though here.

Also, if the system works like challenge modes, then sockets + high iLvl will still matter. Hit/Expertise is never downscaled, meaning you can reforge it away from PvP pieces, and socket bonuses + sockets will be worth more. But again, we'll have to see.

View PostStyfez, on 13 May 2013 - 05:49 AM, said:

They are implementing a catch up system that should be more than enough. And LOL at all these people that want to FOTM reroll if they get nerfed with minimal effort.

I don't think people said they wanted to roll the best class, most of them probably would just like to be able to play their alts, without having to spend months of gearing up. Even with the new catch up system, it will take forever to cap if you start late. Imagine being down 40.000 health and a ton of stats, then you go ahead and try to cap your new "catch up" cap as a Ret Paladin or so.

But atleast it is something! I would just like an easier way to play my alts.

Edited by Feliclandelo, 13 May 2013 - 09:47 AM.





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