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#61 DamnBlackCap

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 10:03 PM

wasnt the heal nerf on coldsnap reverted?

#62 Marshmellow

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 10:04 PM

View PostDagin, on 08 May 2013 - 02:41 PM, said:

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@Jeff60338516 frost bolt change was primarily PvE driven. Looking at flameglow and occasional 400k burst during deep freeze

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#63 Icekingx

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 10:20 PM

View PostZerlog, on 08 May 2013 - 06:51 PM, said:

nerf lance buff frostbolt decrease proc chance from NT, make pom 20sec shorter cd BUT make it unable to alter time.

mage fixed, and yeh buff coldsnap to 30% hp again and make coldsnap 30-1min longer cd

and buff waterelemental resi/hp
and nerf frostbomb.

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#64 Marshmellow

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 10:40 PM

Could even take brainfreeze proccing off of bombs and put it back on frost orb like it was in cata, give it the same proc rate and everything. seeing as bombs only give special bonus to frost anyway.

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 03:45 AM

incanter's ward NEEDS to be looked at, it's seriously the number one issue with mage burst right now.
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Posted 12 May 2013 - 04:53 AM

I play nt. i hardly ever cast frost bolts.

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 04:57 AM

View Poststalebagel, on 12 May 2013 - 03:45 AM, said:

incanter's ward NEEDS to be looked at, it's seriously the number one issue with mage burst right now.


its as simple as when a monk pops that transfer damage thing really.. dont hit him then.....l2p issue

View PostOgcreamsicle, on 12 May 2013 - 04:53 AM, said:

I play nt. i hardly ever cast frost bolts.
nerf instants buff casts

View PostDamnBlackCap, on 08 May 2013 - 10:03 PM, said:

wasnt the heal nerf on coldsnap reverted?


no and its annoying it scales with Battlefatigue/MS effect, and necrotics.

#68 Pritchard

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 05:04 AM

View PostZerlog, on 12 May 2013 - 04:57 AM, said:

its as simple as when a monk pops that transfer damage thing really.. dont hit him then.....l2p issue

lol you realize incanters only absorbs like ~26k right, if you have any small dots or anything (which most classes do) it can break at anytime

#69 Fleinflex

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 08:36 AM

There is a lot of things they should look at in the mage class before nerfing the damage on frostbolt imo, but even tho I'm all for casting in this game I dont want frostbolt to become chaos bolt v2. Keep the damage nerf to frostbolt and lower the cast time.
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Posted 12 May 2013 - 09:13 AM

View PostIcekingx, on 08 May 2013 - 10:20 PM, said:

and nerf frostbomb.
do think about the wider ramifications of this change before you suggest it. i dont think anyone would disagree that a mage playing with frostbomb is far easier to manage and shut down then a mage playing with nether tempest, they completely trade any sustained damage what so ever for the ability to burst every 10 or so seconds. Frostbomb already does 40% damage to players, any more nerfs and the last few mages that still play it will all follow everyone else and switch to nether tempest tab dot playstyle, but if that is what people want then do go ahead and nerf frostbomb

View PostPouncedd, on 12 June 2014 - 01:51 AM, said:

Feel free to call me an idiot because I'm a hunter or some stupid ass remark but I've actually written all this down on paper and have looked at the numbers comparatively for almost every class

View PostJontex, on 23 June 2014 - 04:48 PM, said:

I actually made an appearance at DH2014 and I met up with people from twitch who were involved with the dota 2 / cs tournies that where there, I talked about the game from my perspective as a professional player and we actually shared a lot of opinions. All I'm saying is a lot of people will be VERY surprised about the future of this game in the esport world :)

#71 Sicktrix1

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 09:45 AM

View PostIcekingx, on 08 May 2013 - 06:42 PM, said:

Still gonna stick with what I said they always nerf the wrong spells/ability...Mages globaling people without casting you say??? NERF FROSTBOLT tbh I don't care that it was "a pve nerf" it's just making us not even want to cast it even more like lol what? They wanna fix mage nerf/remove NT/frostbomb and force us to play nothing but BC style mage play.

removing bombs would be a terrible idea, it would just make frost mages similar to how they were in cata and it was so boring

#72 Tibzdtf

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 10:09 AM

View PostIcekingx, on 08 May 2013 - 02:13 AM, said:

I wish we could go back to BC

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#73 Ruddx

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 10:50 AM

Why would they nerf the only balanced Class in the game?

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 04:22 PM

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Next time one of you dies or takes an unreasable amount of damage unnexpectedly (mainly from rogue/mage/hunter), please take a moment to look at the buffs of the person who did it. I promise 99% of the time it happens you'll see some random ass godly PvE trinket up, or incanters stacked with on use/proc trinket.
Dispel having a cd was a single biggest buff to frost mages that ever happened.
Also frost bomb damage might need some tuning.



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removing bombs would be a terrible idea, it would just make frost mages similar to how they were in cata and it was so boring
Not sure if you are playing other classes but i am having a blast every time i play a mage. The whole thing of executing cast something - cast 2 more things while first one is still in the air and silence the healer in the same time make me drool a little bit.

Edited by Lieto, 12 May 2013 - 04:25 PM.

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