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#101 Sykoh

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 08:44 PM

bring back old shs, able to do it in roots PRZ PRZ PRZ

#102 fant0m8

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 08:46 PM

View PostSkizzlol, on 03 May 2013 - 05:54 PM, said:

The best and most reasonable solution to rogue is to remove subterfuge from the game. That shit is OP is hell and it is the main reason everyone hates rogues. I fucking hate that ability even as a rogue. Not being able to peel rogues off my team for the first 3 seconds of their burst fucking retardedly idiotic. And it makes every restealth into a potential kill. All they had to do was remove subterfuge, reduce range on CND and the pvp power nerf would have put rogues in a very good spot. You would actually have to get an opener without getting knocked out and the skill cap would be much higher than it currently is. Shit is disgusting you got idiots like pikaboo who got their first time glad r1 and now are dominating bg9 because they mongo the fuck out of everything with subterfuge unpeelable idiot dmg.

Actually I agree and I've posted in most of the rogue threads that I think all these other changes are just bandaids trying to prop up a broken mechanic.

They should revert the little nerfs and gut Subterfuge instead. It's the most absurd individual talent/skill I've ever seen in this game, going back to TNT stun and horrify on Death & Decay.

Flattens the skill cap and doesn't let good rogues show their skill (getting openers), and doesn't let you stop horrible rogues from getting an opener.
Bye again! This game isn't fun when you don't know anyone else that still plays.

#103 mimmick

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 08:47 PM

View Postbaltothedog, on 03 May 2013 - 08:43 PM, said:

if they dont nerf fairies and buff shadow step to 15sec with roots breaking effect, rogue are dead
yes

#104 Sevencute

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 08:48 PM

stahp, just stahp

#105 Marshmellow

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 09:06 PM

View Postbaltothedog, on 03 May 2013 - 08:43 PM, said:

if they dont nerf fairies and buff shadow step to 15sec with roots breaking effect, rogue are dead

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#106 Dalic

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 10:16 PM

View PostMarshmellow, on 03 May 2013 - 09:06 PM, said:

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#107 lysolabuser

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 10:31 PM

RIP rogues once again, shittiest class in the game.

#108 Poseyx

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 10:33 PM

Love seeing rogues cry keep crying brings joy to me
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#109 Marshmellow

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 10:47 PM

View PostGambino6, on 03 May 2013 - 10:33 PM, said:

Love seeing rogues cry keep crying brings joy to me

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#110 ohnoes

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 10:55 PM

my mage has more mobility then my rogue, 15 sec blink and 25 second blazing speed vs 24 second shadowstep (that can't break roots) and 1 minute sprint. AWESOME

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 10:58 PM

View PostBigpapapump, on 03 May 2013 - 02:12 AM, said:

Well these changes effectively destroyed the rogue's burst while not changing their already horrid sustained damage. S12 2.0 for rogues it looks like if these changes all go live.

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#112 Milchev

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 11:01 PM

Cloak and Dagger seemed kinda retarded to me when I started playing wow again, and thought it was over the top. If ShS becomes popular again, we will pretty much need to hard switch with a vanish instead of dance to gain distance to get to enemies far away from us, and then save ShS if (for example, Displacer Beast, or freedom sprint around corner, blazing speed/blink, disengage etc etc).

Someone also suggested (I think Hilde) that Shadowstep should have charges like Roll. I think that's a great idea.

Reminds me of Akali's Shadow Dance. Lol.

#113 mirox

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 11:02 PM

I think that if they made step 15 sec CD + breaking roots. And gave us http://www.wowhead.com/spell=137638 passive , our mobility would be in really good spot. And ofc, Faerie fire changes....

Edited by mirox, 03 May 2013 - 11:02 PM.


#114 Braindance

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 11:02 PM

Why don't the leave rogues as they are right now (apart from making subterfuge visible) I don't get it.

View PostZerstiren, on 14 August 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

If you haven't +repped this guy, you are part of the problem.

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

#115 Eveny

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 11:21 PM

I don't even mind rogues atm lol
i'd rather see mages or dk's dmg nurfed
If you have problems understanding my post, don't assume something and hit the reply button but read it again.

#116 mimmick

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 11:31 PM

View Postmirox, on 03 May 2013 - 11:02 PM, said:

I think that if they made step 15 sec CD + breaking roots. And gave us http://www.wowhead.com/spell=137638 passive , our mobility would be in really good spot. And ofc, Faerie fire changes....
Really like this idea similar to warriors charge intervine partner out of root and than heroic leap

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 11:46 PM

View Postmimmick, on 03 May 2013 - 11:31 PM, said:

Really like this idea similar to warriors charge intervine partner out of root and than heroic leap
Yep, they can even make Shadowstep passive and put that talent in place where Shdstep is now, but if they just let it be like this then I'am looking forward to all the waddling...

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Posted 04 May 2013 - 12:05 AM

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#119 Marshmellow

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Posted 04 May 2013 - 12:49 AM

View PostConviqx, on 04 May 2013 - 12:05 AM, said:

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Looks like you got a picture of them when they buffed rogues coming into 5.2 B)
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Posted 04 May 2013 - 04:24 AM

at least put shadowstep back on prep. since you know......every rogue is going to be forced to run shadowstep now




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