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#241 Conviqx

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 02:56 AM

stop fcking whining about the nerf, cc nerf was needed badly in one way or another, you have no idea how disgusting it is to play vs a hunter, especially as a melee, your dmg is all instant and unpeelable, no more deadzone lololol sit on hunter still globals the shit out of you.

just trap out of your god damn physical bullshit root or a pet stun and use scatter for something else
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#242 Marshmellow

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 03:11 AM

maybe they'll make cheapshot DR with garrote now
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Posted 01 May 2013 - 04:17 AM

View PostConviqx, on 01 May 2013 - 02:56 AM, said:

stop fcking whining about the nerf, cc nerf was needed badly in one way or another, you have no idea how disgusting it is to play vs a hunter, especially as a melee, your dmg is all instant and unpeelable, no more deadzone lololol sit on hunter still globals the shit out of you.

just trap out of your god damn physical bullshit root or a pet stun and use scatter for something else

You have no idea how disgusting it is to play vs a rogue especially as any class in the game, your opener is unpeelable, you teleport all over the map lololol sit on rogue o nvm you cant see him and your whole team is stunned.

Its cool though all hunters play with rogue we will just trap off one of your absurd amount on stuns

Edited by frigidclam, 01 May 2013 - 04:18 AM.


#244 moistlol

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 05:10 AM

View PostConviqx, on 01 May 2013 - 02:56 AM, said:

stop fcking whining about the nerf, cc nerf was needed badly in one way or another, you have no idea how disgusting it is to play vs a hunter, especially as a melee, your dmg is all instant and unpeelable, no more deadzone lololol sit on hunter still globals the shit out of you.

just trap out of your god damn physical bullshit root or a pet stun and use scatter for something else

NO offense bro but you play a fking rogue......

#245 Jayxx

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 05:15 AM

View Postmoistlol, on 01 May 2013 - 05:10 AM, said:

NO offense bro but you play a fking rogue......

idek how he has access at 1600

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 06:04 AM

prob got it earlier this season and then left/disbanded the team

but still

#247 Marshmellow

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 06:46 AM

View PostJayxx, on 01 May 2013 - 05:15 AM, said:

idek how he has access at 1600

thug is hard
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Posted 01 May 2013 - 07:35 AM

I'd rather see Petstunn/Scatter sharing DR, this just takes away a lot of options and makes the class easier to play.

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 09:06 AM

Thanks to everyone for the +rep for my post on the first page. <3

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 09:14 AM

you're welcUM bruv

#251 Flabbert

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 11:47 AM

Gotta love them nerfs

Edited by Flabbert, 01 May 2013 - 11:47 AM.

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 04:36 PM

https://twitter.com/...346699707441153

seems that the main drive behind this change was the fact readiness extended our CC chain (if we used readiness for that)
wouldn't a better option be to prevent scatter shot from being readinessed?

#253 Dagin

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 04:45 PM

View PostBraindeadly, on 01 May 2013 - 04:36 PM, said:

https://twitter.com/...346699707441153

seems that the main drive behind this change was the fact readiness extended our CC chain (if we used readiness for that)
wouldn't a better option be to prevent scatter shot from being readinessed?

I just love how these kids think its so easy to land a trap. I use that pet ability to cross cc to land the trap most of the time. But i agree that making ti to where you can't readiness would be a better way. I used readiness about 30  percent of the time for the scatter/silence reset anyway. Goona suck if you need to peel a target with a trap for a teammate.

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 11:15 PM

With this change it's going to be damn near impossible to reliably land traps.

All pet cc is considered a stun which means it is reduced by meta gem and orc racial.
One of the stuns is removable by a completely different racial and tremor totem.

All 11 classes have ways to get out of roots which means what we'll have to use a silence on the target just to trap good players.
But regardless, if we're forced to use roots to trap now, that means we have to get narrow escape constantly. Meaning Post Haste and Crouching Tiger Hidden Chimera will never be used, which are both very necessary survival talents for some comps.

Our CC was our main draw for partners, other classes can survive easier and provide more support than we do, but our CC made us valuable.

Now we will be forced to pair up with classes that we can trap off of. So that means their CC must be stationary and not on Poly DR to be effective.

Warriors: Shockwave, Intimidating Shout
Rogues: Blind
Demo Locks: Pet Stun
Spriest: Psychic Horror
Dk: Pet Stun
Ret Pallies: Blind and Hammer

These are the only classes I see having the necessary CC to synergize enough with us to make us semi-valuable partners.

However, these stuns being used for CC means they can't be used offensively, which is a huge issue and will make other classes with Poly Dr CC more vauable, namely mages, monks, and shamans.

This change is game breaking for hunters.
Hunters, least represented for 4 seasons.  Average for one.  Here comes the 5th at the bottom, and we're worse than ever.

Blizz sure learns fast.

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 11:30 PM


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@epohks @RigelWoW We did not want to change Readiness for 5.3


we're fucked


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Posted 01 May 2013 - 11:42 PM

View Posternest, on 01 May 2013 - 11:15 PM, said:

With this change it's going to be damn near impossible to reliably land traps.

All pet cc is considered a stun which means it is reduced by meta gem and orc racial.
One of the stuns is removable by a completely different racial and tremor totem.

All 11 classes have ways to get out of roots which means what we'll have to use a silence on the target just to trap good players.
But regardless, if we're forced to use roots to trap now, that means we have to get narrow escape constantly. Meaning Post Haste and Crouching Tiger Hidden Chimera will never be used, which are both very necessary survival talents for some comps.

Our CC was our main draw for partners, other classes can survive easier and provide more support than we do, but our CC made us valuable.

Now we will be forced to pair up with classes that we can trap off of. So that means their CC must be stationary and not on Poly DR to be effective.

Warriors: Shockwave, Intimidating Shout
Rogues: Blind
Demo Locks: Pet Stun
Spriest: Psychic Horror
Dk: Pet Stun
Ret Pallies: Blind and Hammer

These are the only classes I see having the necessary CC to synergize enough with us to make us semi-valuable partners.

However, these stuns being used for CC means they can't be used offensively, which is a huge issue and will make other classes with Poly Dr CC more vauable, namely mages, monks, and shamans.

This change is game breaking for hunters.

Yea i am respecing double pom poly

#257 Sabyth

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 11:43 PM

View Postamaixliu, on 01 May 2013 - 11:30 PM, said:


Holinka@holinka50m
@epohks @RigelWoW We did not want to change Readiness for 5.3

we're fucked
And you know they won't look back on Scatter and Trap DR. It's likely here to stay.

I'm confused as to why they reverted Cyclone DR change last PTR and can't see what a terrible idea Scatter DR is.

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 11:49 PM

who came up with this idea on their Dev Team there's no way that somebody propose day and they were all like yeah sure this is a great idea
Hunters, least represented for 4 seasons.  Average for one.  Here comes the 5th at the bottom, and we're worse than ever.

Blizz sure learns fast.

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#259 ernest

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 11:53 PM

Holinka says: we didn't want to touch readiness this patch
bandet says: I have to do a lot of things I don't want to do.

"@holinka: @KevanGerabagi @epohks @RigelWoW Like pet stun -> trap? #justkidding :-D"
Hunters, least represented for 4 seasons.  Average for one.  Here comes the 5th at the bottom, and we're worse than ever.

Blizz sure learns fast.

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 12:26 AM

does the #justkidding mean they'll consider it??????????????

PLEASE???




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