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#201 Dagin

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 03:13 PM

View Postvarellol, on 30 April 2013 - 02:14 PM, said:

i knew shit like this is coming because youre retarded and can't think about it objectively.
retarded shit should not be in the game. overall we want fucking balance even though it won't ever be possible.
so fuck off with your YOUR CLASS IS OP TOO MIMIMI. god this is so annoying.

You contradict yourself with your initial post and this one. We can all agree the game will never be balanced and that this website which has turned into a huge troll hate fest is utterly pointless from what it originally was. So don't have this one way thinking that you are showing atleast.

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#202 varellz

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 03:56 PM

yeah because s12 hunter isn't like s5 dk oh wait

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 04:00 PM

I honestly see no problem with this, I'm using my scatter the majority of the time for a peel on one of the non-focused dps nowadays anyways..
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Posted 30 April 2013 - 04:00 PM

View Postvarellol, on 30 April 2013 - 03:56 PM, said:

yeah because s12 hunter isn't like s5 dk oh wait
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Posted 30 April 2013 - 04:03 PM

s5 dk :rolleyes:

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 04:06 PM

View Postvarellol, on 30 April 2013 - 03:56 PM, said:

yeah because s12 hunter isn't like s5 dk oh wait
I wanted to call you a hypocrite which you are, but s12 hunter compared to s5 dk the season where a dk would solo a team after his teammates died rng stun on d and d and would stay alive as a ghoul after you killed it along with completedly countering resto druids. Mang you so spot on lol. if anything s5 or s6 bm hunter was way better than s12.

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 04:10 PM

ok so stampede didn't solo entire teams s12 start? ok.
and don't tell me it was a bug. it was ingame , needed to get fixed and got fixed but even with this bug some hunters pretented it to be fine. (LOL JUST CC THE PETS) .... thats what i meant with s12 huntard i guess not everyone is that retarded but i hope you'll get my point

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 06:43 PM

It seems they're not just thinking about pulling a Cata style Deep > RoF change, they are apparently changing scatters DR category entirely to be on the gouge/sap/poly/trap/hex/etc DR table...

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 07:04 PM

good luck trapping orc shamans out of your own cc

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 07:06 PM

View Postvarellol, on 30 April 2013 - 04:10 PM, said:

ok so stampede didn't solo entire teams s12 start? ok.
and don't tell me it was a bug. it was ingame , needed to get fixed and got fixed but even with this bug some hunters pretented it to be fine. (LOL JUST CC THE PETS) .... thats what i meant with s12 huntard i guess not everyone is that retarded but i hope you'll get my point
what do you mean, "don't tell me it was a bug"... it was literally a bug

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 07:08 PM

View Postamaixliu, on 30 April 2013 - 07:06 PM, said:

what do you mean, "don't tell me it was a bug"... it was literally a bug

i mean even when it was a bug it was still in the game the bug thing is no excuse for some hunters defending the class

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 07:22 PM

View Postvarellol, on 30 April 2013 - 07:08 PM, said:

i mean even when it was a bug it was still in the game the bug thing is no excuse for some hunters defending the class
oh sorry i misunderstood

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 07:34 PM

goood change. i hate hunters, most frustrating mongo class to play against.

i hope they become unviable for the rest of mop. GG

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 07:39 PM

View PostMbgz, on 30 April 2013 - 07:34 PM, said:

goood change. i hate hunters, most frustrating mongo class to play against.

i hope they become unviable for the rest of mop. GG

Yeah because the solution is removing another class from the game. I guess you just want there to be like 3 comps on the ladders period. Mirror matches all day long are fun right?

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 07:40 PM

View PostMbgz, on 30 April 2013 - 07:34 PM, said:

goood change. i hate hunters, most frustrating mongo class to play against.

i hope they become unviable for the rest of mop. GG

i understand you very well but honestly this is not the best way to think if we want balance somehow

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 07:40 PM

View PostFilthpig, on 30 April 2013 - 07:39 PM, said:

Yeah because the solution is removing another class from the game. I guess you just want there to be like 3 comps on the ladders period. Mirror matches all day long are fun right?

its more fun than sitting in instant cc 20 seconds out of 30 seconds all the time. its literally ruining the fun in the game. i dont even care about balance this is a fun issue, its dumb.

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 07:46 PM

View Postvarellol, on 30 April 2013 - 07:08 PM, said:

i mean even when it was a bug it was still in the game the bug thing is no excuse for some hunters defending the class
There's always shitty bugs to deal with. Did you forget vial critting on a rogues target with find weakness active for 30-40% of someones health? Stampede bug was insane but it was fixed within a few weeks after it being known (Yes I agree it took longer to fix than it should have but that's besides the point.) Ladders where soon reset after so even though stampede alone was pretty much globalling people because of the bug nobody benefited from it towards the end.

~To clarify, assuming I remember correct the vial thing wasn't actually a bug. I was just bringing a point up that not only hunters have had things that where completely insane that would contribute to kills in less than 2 seconds.

Edited by Cocoapuffs, 30 April 2013 - 07:47 PM.


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Posted 30 April 2013 - 07:52 PM

View PostCocoapuffs, on 30 April 2013 - 07:46 PM, said:

There's always shitty bugs to deal with. Did you forget vial critting on a rogues target with find weakness active for 30-40% of someones health? Stampede bug was insane but it was fixed within a few weeks after it being known (Yes I agree it took longer to fix than it should have but that's besides the point.) Ladders where soon reset after so even though stampede alone was pretty much globalling people because of the bug nobody benefited from it towards the end.

~To clarify, assuming I remember correct the vial thing wasn't actually a bug. I was just bringing a point up that not only hunters have had things that where completely insane that would contribute to kills in less than 2 seconds.

i know, im not even defending rogue. its just i hate that some people can't admit there class is op.
even though vial thingy wasn't a class thing and more like retard pve shit just scaled well with rogues find weakness , yes.
but rogue was retarded anyway back then.

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btw. don't get me wrong im not saying hunter is the only retarded thing ingame, same like warrior s12 or mages or spriests you know... neverending list right now ;O

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 07:58 PM

View PostMbgz, on 30 April 2013 - 07:40 PM, said:



its more fun than sitting in instant cc 20 seconds out of 30 seconds all the time. its literally ruining the fun in the game. i dont even care about balance this is a fun issue, its dumb.


You act like hunters are the only class that can do this lol. Lets take a took at others:

Mage: The only class that I have ever seen literally spam poly someone 10x in a row. They can Polly you for 15s, into a ring, into a deep, into a blanket cs. That's well over 20s.
Rogue: cheap 4s, garrote 3s, gouge 3s, kidney 5s, paralytic 4 sec, blind 8s, sap 8-15s and stun/silence you all over again while killing you! That's well over 30s.
Druid: 10s of clone, roar you for 3s, typhoon next cast 2s as any spec, 15s. Add like 10s if vortex beam.
Warlock: pet stun 4s, 15s of fear, 4s blanket with second pet, coil, pet stun again. Over 30s
Shaman: cap totem 5s, hex 8 sec, shock 4s. 16s
Death knight: asphyxiate. 4s, grip a cast, mind freeze, pet stun, steal one of your cc's.  over 20s
Priest: 15s of fear with bullshit psyfiend, 4sec silence, 2 sec disarm. 21s
Monk: ring of peace, stuns, disarms, paralyze. Over. 20sec
Paladin: 4s hoj, 8s repentance, 4am blinding light. Rebuke 18s

Hunter:  scatter 3s, trap 8s, silence 3s, web wrap 3s. 17s. If you readiness it's like 24s.

If someone wants to cc you for a while... They can.

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 08:12 PM

View PostFilthpig, on 30 April 2013 - 07:58 PM, said:

You act like hunters are the only class that can do this lol. Lets take a took at others:

Mage: The only class that I have ever seen literally spam poly someone 10x in a row. They can Polly you for 15s, into a ring, into a deep, into a blanket cs. That's well over 20s.
Rogue: cheap 4s, garrote 3s, gouge 3s, kidney 5s, paralytic 4 sec, blind 8s, sap 8-15s and stun/silence you all over again while killing you! That's well over 30s.
Druid: 10s of clone, roar you for 3s, typhoon next cast 2s as any spec, 15s. Add like 10s if vortex beam.
Warlock: pet stun 4s, 15s of fear, 4s blanket with second pet, coil, pet stun again. Over 30s
Shaman: cap totem 5s, hex 8 sec, shock 4s. 16s
Death knight: asphyxiate. 4s, grip a cast, mind freeze, pet stun, steal one of your cc's.  over 20s
Priest: 15s of fear with bullshit psyfiend, 4sec silence, 2 sec disarm. 21s
Monk: ring of peace, stuns, disarms, paralyze. Over. 20sec
Paladin: 4s hoj, 8s repentance, 4am blinding light. Rebuke 18s

Hunter:  scatter 3s, trap 8s, silence 3s, web wrap 3s. 17s. If you readiness it's like 24s.

If someone wants to cc you for a while... They can.

but hunters do it all instant without dropping any dps. you literally just spam your dps rotation while using all your dumb instant cc on cooldown in your focus binds.

you cant compare any other cc to hunters.




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